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Old 08-21-2019, 02:37 PM
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:45 PM
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I think this is probably the best argument. I just don't agree with it. I have to wear something because of your emotional fragility?
There's a genuine concern over legal liability if you show up helmetless to an organized group ride, even a loosely organized one. You might be a staunch libertarian and decline to sue the group, but not everyone is quite that staunch.

In his original formulation on his website, Phil was a bit more nuanced about this:

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Rule #7: If you’re not into helmets that’s your decision, but do respect the policies of who you’re riding with. We don’t helmet shame (adult) strangers we see without them, but don’t show up on the group ride like that if that’s not how everyone else does it.
In this version, if you're in a group ride where helmets are optional, that's fine. I don't know how many groups there are that do this. Probably no or very few teams. I suspect people riding with friends.
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:47 PM
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If a group requests/requires riders to wear helmets, and you are so anti-helmet that you're going to raise a stink about it, why do you even want to ride with them?
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:55 PM
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What's the consensus on "Always waving at other cyclists"?

I once saw a funny sticker in SF "Just because we both ride bikes that doesn't make us friends.”.
There's a cycling trail here where if you waved at every cyclist you would never have both hands on the bars. But if I'm on a less traveled road I definitely like to wave.
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Old 08-21-2019, 03:04 PM
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There's a cycling trail here where if you waved at every cyclist you would never have both hands on the bars. But if I'm on a less traveled road I definitely like to wave.
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Old 08-21-2019, 03:23 PM
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If a group requests/requires riders to wear helmets, and you are so anti-helmet that you're going to raise a stink about it, why do you even want to ride with them?
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Old 08-21-2019, 03:47 PM
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Little of that, a lot of some folks would rather not watch someone die in the street on a group ride due to a preventable TBI.

Therapy and prescription drugs are hella expensive.
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Old 08-21-2019, 03:48 PM
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If a group requests/requires riders to wear helmets, and you are so anti-helmet that you're going to raise a stink about it, why do you even want to ride with them?
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Old 08-21-2019, 03:49 PM
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The legal liability issue is a real nightmare right now. enforcing a helmet rule will nor save you. I am paranoid to even invite friends on a ride for this reason. Not because i am afraid of them sueing me but their insurance company.

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There's a genuine concern over legal liability if you show up helmetless to an organized group ride, even a loosely organized one. You might be a staunch libertarian and decline to sue the group, but not everyone is quite that staunch.

In his original formulation on his website, Phil was a bit more nuanced about this:



In this version, if you're in a group ride where helmets are optional, that's fine. I don't know how many groups there are that do this. Probably no or very few teams. I suspect people riding with friends.
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Old 08-21-2019, 04:04 PM
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That's pretty funny.

I don't wear a helmet normally but I always do on group rides where everyone else is simply to not be a dbag. It's as simple as that. And when every single story about a cyclist crashing in the news the very first thing they say is he was or was not wearing a helmet you know that goes all the way up to the courts and would ruing the group ride.
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Old 08-21-2019, 05:57 PM
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The local club's insurance policy is sobering - it requires helmets and lights to participate.

I have been wearing a hunter orange smith overtake for 6 years or so, and on days like today I really wonder if it's helpful.

I didn't wear one in the 70's, 80's or most of the 90's.

Tho' I also remember my head burning up under a cap.
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:04 PM
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its such a weird look to be in full kit and no helmet. like, youre already pretty much all the way there. why dont you go all the way?
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:11 PM
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its such a weird look to be in full kit and no helmet. like, youre already pretty much all the way there. why dont you go all the way?
MM knows what's up. No helmet means no kit.

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Old 08-21-2019, 06:12 PM
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:12 PM
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