Know the rules The Paceline Forum Builder's Spotlight


Go Back   The Paceline Forum > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 06-27-2019, 03:37 PM
d_douglas d_douglas is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 9,813
I bet that bike is a riot to ride, but it is pretty butt ugly. I too hate the dropped seatstays.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-27-2019, 03:39 PM
msl819 msl819 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,641
I dont care much for the looks of the one above but do really like the looks of this EF team bike supers evo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t7Fb26LXKU
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06-27-2019, 03:43 PM
jtbadge's Avatar
jtbadge jtbadge is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,854
Quote:
Originally Posted by msl819 View Post
I dont care much for the looks of the one above but do really like the looks of this EF team bike supers evo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t7Fb26LXKU
I agree, the current model is probably the best looking bike in the peloton. Even with FSA rings and cockpit.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-27-2019, 03:45 PM
velotrack velotrack is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,418
i don't love it, don't hate it... but i'm gonna get used to it. maybe eventually like it.
kinda like the 4-arm cranks.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 06-27-2019, 03:49 PM
Blown Reek Blown Reek is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,675
Quote:
Originally Posted by icepick_trotsky View Post
Are they bringing back that retro cannondale font/logo? I dig these.
That old-school font is the best! Now if they'd bring back the little triangle barn on the headtube, I wouldn't be any closer to getting one, but I would appreciate it.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 06-27-2019, 05:07 PM
jpang922 jpang922 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: WA
Posts: 291
I too am not a fan of the dropped seat stays (aesthetics, rear brake caliper routing but with everything going towards hydroelectric this will be a moot point) but find the “all bikes look the same now” comment intriguing. Same can be said for vintage lugged steel frames but people remember those times fondly. What am I missing here? The silhouette of the race bike has evolved and will continue to.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 06-27-2019, 05:28 PM
yinzerniner yinzerniner is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: NYC
Posts: 3,202
Quote:
Originally Posted by jpang922 View Post
I too am not a fan of the dropped seat stays (aesthetics, rear brake caliper routing but with everything going towards hydroelectric this will be a moot point) but find the “all bikes look the same now” comment intriguing. Same can be said for vintage lugged steel frames but people remember those times fondly. What am I missing here? The silhouette of the race bike has evolved and will continue to.
Problem is .... the silhouette of the race bike really hadn't evolved that much since the beginning of serious racing.

The biggest geometry change was with the TCR, and for many it was revolutionary at the time. But for the most part the double triangle look was consistent for almost 100 years.

I posted this over at weightweenies but it's relevant here. Check out this post's pictures and marvel how the basic frame design remained unchanged up until the advent of widespread carbon bikes in the late 90's
https://gizmodo.com/100-years-of-tou...n-of-709973821
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 06-27-2019, 10:54 PM
Matthew Matthew is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Muskegon, Michigan
Posts: 4,269
At least back in the day when all bikes looked the same they looked good!! That's basically what I meant when I said that. Level top tubes, stays that met at the seat cluster.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 06-28-2019, 12:32 AM
54ny77 54ny77 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 12,988
no thank you.

i still miss my caad9. wish i could have kept that. didn't have the room, it drew the short straw when it came time to do the n-1 thing.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 06-28-2019, 12:40 AM
fiamme red's Avatar
fiamme red fiamme red is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 12,428
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blown Reek View Post
That old-school font is the best! Now if they'd bring back the little triangle barn on the headtube, I wouldn't be any closer to getting one, but I would appreciate it.
Actually, that wasn't a barn but the Cannondale train station in Connecticut. See the cover of the 1983 catalog.

https://vintagecannondale.com/year/1983/1983.pdf
__________________
It don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that certain je ne sais quoi.
--Peter Schickele
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 06-28-2019, 01:37 AM
pasadena pasadena is offline
DELETE ACCNT
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 2,382
I'm a little disappointed that Cdale didn't keep the S6E traditional. It was a standout because of it.

Cdale seems to have caved to the fashion, and went the same as everyone else.
I'm not a fan of the graphics but maybe it looks better in real life.

I've always wanted a S6E but maybe the current one in Rapha oilslick will be the collectors item to own.
I used to race on the CAAD bikes and have fond memories of it. I think the CAAD 10 was my last Cdale.

Did they raise the headtubes on the new S6E? It looks strangely tall. Not sure if you can get a proper position with that.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 06-28-2019, 09:41 AM
yinzerniner yinzerniner is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: NYC
Posts: 3,202
Quote:
Originally Posted by pasadena View Post
I'm a little disappointed that Cdale didn't keep the S6E traditional. It was a standout because of it.

Cdale seems to have caved to the fashion, and went the same as everyone else.

Did they raise the headtubes on the new S6E? It looks strangely tall. Not sure if you can get a proper position with that.
Don't think it's "caved to fashion" by not keeping it traditional, but rather caved to physics and aerodynamics. When the pros aren't winning on your bikes and they're empirically proven to be much slower than the competition it's tough on the marketing end to justify the super-high prices for a performance machine. Whether it's because of the machine or not doesn't matter when it comes to attracting eyeballs, foot traffic and dollars.

Also, see the geo charts for the newer ride. Seems to have made it slightly higher position by 3mm shorter reach and 7mm higher stack for the 56cm. Don't know whether this is to accommodate the integrated handlebars and/or new stem spacer and cable routing setup, but it definitely could effect fit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
At least back in the day when all bikes looked the same they looked good!! That's basically what I meant when I said that. Level top tubes, stays that met at the seat cluster.
This statement is just an objective observation. For one person they can't find a race bike attractive that doesn't have the classical proportions, for others something like this makes some of the old bikes look like toys in comparison....
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 06-28-2019, 09:51 AM
Clean39T Clean39T is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 19,319
There's so much facepalm marketing here.

It's an aero bike...

But the head-tube is 1.5cm taller on the 58.

It's an aero bike...

But go ahead and put 30mm+ tires on it.

It's an aero bike...

But you're stuck with too much rise, not enough length, and too much width in the bar/stem.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that a properly race-fit SS Evo from last year w some aero bars/wheels and 25c tires will be just as fast/efficient at normal 18-22mph speeds on normal pavement as this bike with all of its comfort-compromises.

.
.
.

But hey, it's good for the custom bike biz, so - win/win?

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
__________________
Io non posso vivere senza la mia strada e la mia bici -- DP
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 06-28-2019, 10:30 AM
cderalow's Avatar
cderalow cderalow is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: MoCo MD
Posts: 620
the new versions of cannondales make me appreciate my CAAD10 even more.

Such a classic look and feel. Even with a bunch of miles on it.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 06-28-2019, 10:38 AM
Big Dan Big Dan is offline
Steel..what else??
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: South Florida
Posts: 3,351
I can't.

Always loved CAAD's.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.