Any builders/shops do straight contract building ?

[AngryScientist]

As in: I send in a bikecad sheet and get exactly what's on the sheet?

No hand holding, no consultation, no coddling, advice, nada - just keep costs down and build to my specs exactly.

Anyone doing that for single frames?

Just curious.

[David Tollefson]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

As in: I send in a bikecad sheet and get exactly what's on the sheet?

No hand holding, no consultation, no coddling, advice, nada - just keep costs down and build to my specs exactly.

Anyone doing that for single frames?

Just curious.

Some might be willing, most wouldn't (or in my mind, shouldn't, at least without some discussion first). As for the "keeping costs down", that would be the big sticking point for me. I don't charge anything until the design is set and settled, then I take the deposit before I make any chips. Others take the deposit up front. But the costs are in the fabrication -- time. If you just want a fabrication of your design, you could take it to a machine shop.

[DRZRM]

There is a guy who I remember posting here who did this with a titanium bike in China. You design, they weld and ship. Don't remember the name of the place, but if they are still in business it can't be too hard to find. Whoever he was, he loved the bike.

[AngryScientist]

Originally Posted by David Tollefson

But the costs are in the fabrication -- time. .

most of them, but that upfront consultation still takes your time and costs something, right?

A machine shop generally speaking, does not have the skillset or tools to knock together a bicycle frame David, right? I would not expect any machine shop to have a frame jig, and be capable of welding thin gauge tube steel into a properly aligned frame. And it certainly would not be cost effective for them to do it on a one time basis.

[joosttx]

Ftw ....

[prototoast]

Waltly titanium in China does this and does it pretty well.

[weisan]

http://www.waltlytitanium.com/

[Blown Reek]

That's what I do, and don't think that it's an issue.

I know what I ride, what works for me, and I don't need (or want) some special magical voodoo that they (might) specialize in. It doesn't cost any less, doesn't make the wait time in the queue any less, though. And if the builder's ass gets chapped 'cause you're "undermining" the Master, too bad. It's a product and there's no mysticism behind it.

But if you want to have a new friend that you can bounce any and all ideas off of, feel free- I guess that's what some people like to do. Not me.

[pdonk]

I would suggest contacting Gabe at atruiste. When I met him a few months ago he seemed like a nice guy, trying to do his own thing in a place with few options. My track frame and fork should be on its way in the next few weeks.

He does his own thing, but also contract manufacturing, so may be interested in taking on a project, if it is not too weird.

His prices are "relatively" reasonable, and in Canadian Dollars. He has a large supply of NOS True Temper tubing, but will also build with Reynolds and Columbus. He will also ship you a raw frame to be painted by a person of your choice, or powder coat it for you.

His web site is quirky and seems to be a mess with pop ups and hacks, but try https://altruistebikes.com/products/

His email is altruistebikes at gmail.com


Here is my thread from the visit to his shop

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showt...ight=altruiste

[dgauthier]

You could probably get a nice custom from Seven based on only your numbers. I imagine any custom builder, large or small, would do it.

But if you think it would cost any less, I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

[Bentley]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

As in: I send in a bikecad sheet and get exactly what's on the sheet?

No hand holding, no consultation, no coddling, advice, nada - just keep costs down and build to my specs exactly.

Anyone doing that for single frames?

Just curious.

I would offer that I think he will do this, but I had a less than spectactular experience with Davis. Dont want to bash anyone here, but I think he will do that. I will add, if something does not work, it will be on you.

Ray

[FlashUNC]

Colossi may do it for you. But then you're waiting on a frame from China.

[ryker]

I imagine any builder would do it unless the spec is outside their skillset or interests. I had a custom frame built with maybe 2-3 emails because I sent a BikeCAD drawing in the first place but I didn't expect or request any kind of price adjustment.

[Gummee]

Originally Posted by DRZRM

There is a guy who I remember posting here who did this with a titanium bike in China. You design, they weld and ship. Don't remember the name of the place, but if they are still in business it can't be too hard to find. Whoever he was, he loved the bike.

I had a custom Spirit frame made by Colossi. Dutch guy that moved to China...

Welds are very nice. Cost was too.

I picked the angles, lengths, etc and they built it then custom painted it.

M

[David Tollefson]

Let me clarify my position -- I'm not against taking some one else's numbers, as long as we have the conversation about WHY those numbers are where they are and I agree that they'll get the desired result. If some one says that they was X ride characteristics and I feel that the numbers say they'll get Y result, I would most likely pass on the project.