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Old 11-14-2018, 09:05 PM
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I have never actually been fit by Ari, I just recommended him based on positive anecdotes from friends. Given Paul’s experience, though, I think I’ll stop recommending him.

Based on what you are looking for, but throwing away the SF-only caveat, I would recommend Chris Blease at Cycle Sports in Oakland and/or Andres Douzoglou at Beyond Aero in Berkeley.

Chris has literal decades of experience fitting people for custom bicycles, which means he can talk to you for a while about front end geometry, your preferences, and your numbers.

Andres is very diligent when it comes to making sure clients’ numbers align with stock geometries of bikes he sells. He doesn’t want you to look like a dorkweiner with a +17d stem (not that you did, Paul).

Both of these men also know that the idea of bike “fit” is generally over emphasized. Our bikes need to fit properly to prevent injury, and sometimes to prioritize power, but “fitting” is not the magic solution to not doing enough maintenance work with your core/stretching.

I’ve worked closely with both of these gentlemen, both professionally and personally. So take it all with a grain of whatever spice you choose.
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:09 PM
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dorkweiner with a +17d stem

make no mistake I am sure I looked the part of the complete newb...but how could I not riding a bike too small?
I had no knowledge of road fit, my friends and I spent all our time windsurfing and mountain biking.

Ari is a bit professorial and distant, but many many folks like him. The part that bothers me is I was clearly newb and needed expertise, which I did not get. That probably cost me a few years riding the wrong fit...and this is the main point. none of us have the time to waste riding the wrong fit or a crappy bike.

How could I go out the door with a 54 and 100x +17d and a few years later be molded into this 56??
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Old 11-15-2018, 01:07 PM
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For me the problem with bike fit has to do a lot with my level of fitness, I can literally use a a 3 cm longer and lower bike as soon as I ride a thousand miles and drop some pounds. maybe I should fit my bikes by FTP
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Old 11-15-2018, 01:50 PM
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.. The part that bothers me is I was clearly newb and needed expertise, which I did not get. That probably cost me a few years riding the wrong fit...and this is the main point. none of us have the time to waste riding the wrong fit or a crappy bike...
This is just all too common.

I had the same experience elsewhere (highly recommended fitters in San Anselmo and Santa Rosa) attempting to find a fit for my wife that would accommodate a couple physical issues. Nothing but frustration and expense, thank God we ultimately met Steve Hampsten. He spoke to my wife, reviewed both fits (rolling his eyes) and set up one of his personal bikes for her to roll around the neighborhood. Most comfortable she'd been in years after, what, 15 minutes?

He sold a custom frameset that day.
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Old 11-15-2018, 02:01 PM
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I did get dialed in. Glad to know my existing position was 90% 'there.'

Made adjustments to saddle fore/aft, tilt & height, cleat position and gained 15mm in reach w/out buying a new stem, etc. Verified proper saddle width by using the pressure gizmo, specced new bar & stem sizes and came away pleased.

Left with printout of all needed measurements and now am confident to shop for new bike as well as knowing I am mechanically sound and properly 'fit.'
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Old 11-15-2018, 04:12 PM
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where did you end up going and who did the fit for you?
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Old 11-17-2018, 05:04 PM
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Craig Upton.



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Old 11-28-2018, 03:33 PM
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Bay Area Bike fitter

Lorri Lee Lown

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she gets it
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Old 11-29-2018, 02:52 PM
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When I came back to road cycling I took him a calfee luna 54 (eTT 54.8) I bought used. He swapped the stem for a 100x +17d stem to jack me up and pull me in - maybe 3cm bar drop.

I am currently riding frames with eTT 56.0 - 56.5 and 110 x -10d stem with 8cm bar drop.

To this day I wonder why he kept me on such a short and tall set up as there is no change in my physiology or flexibility. Looking back, that was money wasted with him.
That seems to be the nature of the process. Most of my friends who have had "professional" fits are highly motivated individuals whose gateway into serious cycling was the charity ride circuit. AIDS Lifecycle, MS, etc. They're a small sample of riders but it seems that everyone was fit conservatively, ie, 3cm of drop. I know fit can be an ongoing process but a few of these individuals have gone back for fits after riding a few years. Whether it's the same fitter or a prominent new person, the position doesn't change much. Maybe, an extra 10mm on the stem. What makes me skeptical is that a few of my friends are former elite athletes. Well, college baseball, minor leagues elite and they're really stuck on metrics. So they're convinced that they wont improve on the bike unless they work with coaches or professionals. And yet their position still looks awful but the Strava PRs add up. And that might be the point. It's so easy to ride pain free; add the validation of Strava to that and true improvement is an unreachable target.

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Old 11-29-2018, 08:37 PM
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i guess most of the times .. it is about what type of person you are ..

i'm a person which always question things .. and would like to know the mechanic of things .. especially the technique .. to me personally, the missing link in bikefitting ideologies is the pedaling technique. the pedaling technique will be the major influence of your bikefit .. the way you pedal the bike

but almost all of my friends are .. "ride more, then you will be better .. ride more structured, then you can be even better .. pedaling technique is a myth .."

maybe there is no right of wrong universally .. it depends on what you expect out of it
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Old 05-24-2019, 05:35 PM
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Ditto Kevin or Caesar at 3D, also Ryan Moore in the East Bay
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Old 05-25-2019, 11:18 PM
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Ryan is doing fittings in my workspace in Oakland (Oakland Service Course, near Lake Merritt)

Be happy to put you in touch if you'd like to schedule something.
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Old 06-01-2019, 02:25 PM
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Interesting what Mr Tong says, sometimes fitters just work with what they have instead of telling you straight forward that the person got the frame wrong just right out of the bat. Looks like for some is better just work it out than just say it, $? time? pride?
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Old 06-04-2019, 08:16 PM
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Revolutions in Fitness in Palo Alto

Curtis Cramblett. Physical therapist and is on the Retul advisory board. He has fitted many elite pros. He costs alot but worth it. He will give you his undivided attention. Worth the drive down south of SF.
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Old 07-30-2019, 10:22 PM
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Craig Upton.
months later - how is it going?
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