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Old 08-05-2019, 03:17 PM
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Some rust in S&S frame

Curious how to handle this. Bought an Erikson S&S coupled frame. Overall, in VG condition, but it does have surface rust inside the tubes, up to the joint where the S&S couplers are. The tubes appear in VG condition - and ordinarily I would just get out a hone, and gently hone the tubes followed by framesaver.

I assume the S&S joint won't be damaged by gentle honing to remove rust as long as I keep it slow and oiled...

Thoughts on just sloshing the tubes with a bunch of boiled linseed oil to cover the rust and rust flakes instead of honing? I never let my frames get like this... and as it is an older frame, the tubes are fine...

Thoughts?
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Old 08-05-2019, 07:31 PM
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Seriously? No advice?

Guess I will hone with oil, and be gentle...
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Old 08-05-2019, 07:34 PM
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Old 08-05-2019, 07:40 PM
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Can you post a few pics so we can get a better understanding? If it's butted would you be able to hone it safely? I'm not as familiar with the tooling. Honestly, I'd frame save and ride it, maybe email Eriksen and ask 'em too.
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Old 08-05-2019, 07:41 PM
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All you need to do is seal off the surface from oxygen contact.

If linseed oil adheres to the surface well, use it.

I'd use Framesaver, because I think it adheres well.
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Old 08-05-2019, 07:46 PM
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dont worry about the hone.

blast the inside of the tubes with a corrosion inhibitor and call it good. most people like framesaver, which is great, but any marine grade corrosion inhibitor works as well. dont sweat surface rust on the inside of tubes, no big deal, especially caught early, like you have. corrosion inhibitor will check the propagation of rust and you're good to go.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:07 PM
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dont worry about the hone.

blast the inside of the tubes with a corrosion inhibitor and call it good. most people like framesaver, which is great, but any marine grade corrosion inhibitor works as well. dont sweat surface rust on the inside of tubes, no big deal, especially caught early, like you have. corrosion inhibitor will check the propagation of rust and you're good to go.
I am pretty sure that frame saver IS CRC HD rust inhibitor.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:13 PM
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I would try a plumbing fitting brush just a tad oversized to the ID of the tubes and rig it to a drill motor and run that wire brush through the tubes,blow out with compressed air and add a rust inhinintar.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:17 PM
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Thanks - I just wasn't sure about the S&S with a steel frame. Ill just gently remove flakes and hit the tubes with whatever I have - Think I have some Frame Saver, if not I know I have Boshield T-9 and that works the same way. Linseed oil is another option, but I need to buy some as I don't think I have any right now. Its an older frame, my guess is 90's.

Thanks for replies.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:41 PM
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Thanks - I just wasn't sure about the S&S with a steel frame. Ill just gently remove flakes and hit the tubes with whatever I have - Think I have some Frame Saver, if not I know I have Boshield T-9 and that works the same way. Linseed oil is another option, but I need to buy some as I don't think I have any right now. Its an older frame, my guess is 90's.

Thanks for replies.
I saw some marine tests on all kinds using uncoated steel and salt water spray and this came out on top:

https://www.amazon.com/CRC-06026-Hea...%2C206&sr=8-11

I also believe it is actually what Framesaver is made of.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:39 PM
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I saw some marine tests on all kinds using uncoated steel and salt water spray and this came out on top:

https://www.amazon.com/CRC-06026-Hea...%2C206&sr=8-11

I also believe it is actually what Framesaver is made of.
Thanks. Ordered some. I am going to try it and compare to T-9. T-9 is some good stuff... (made by Boeing for planes).

I need to treat my other frames anyway So much knowledge here...
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