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Old 02-21-2020, 07:27 PM
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I have DA c24s. Think I like the c17 Shamals better, though. Even some c17 Zondas would have a noticeable difference. Maybe not so much with weight, but with stiffness and responsiveness, compared to the Belgiums, which feel a bit like tanks to me.

I'd switch to 25mm tires, too. 28's are overkill for a light road wheel.
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Old 02-21-2020, 07:32 PM
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The HED Ardennes SL Black wheels rchman just posted are great wheels. The braking is excellent. And they are light w super smooth bearings.

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Old 02-21-2020, 07:36 PM
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HED Ardennes Plus SL are 1500g. I see them for $720. You can absolutely ride lower spoke count (lighter) at your weight...most 20/24 sets will be under 1500g.
See Boyd also.
Or Industry Nine if you like loud durable hubs.
Agree. I've had a set of Hed Ardennes FR for years. Supposed to be just sub 1500g. They're still holding up after 1000s of miles.
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Old 02-21-2020, 08:31 PM
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Campagnolo Hyperon. Wait... that´s tubular. Get the Shammals.
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Old 02-21-2020, 09:19 PM
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Carbon-Ti hubs, CX-ray spokes, alloy nips, Easton R90SL rims. Have Ergott build them. At least that’s what I want.
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Old 02-21-2020, 09:27 PM
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1545 grams for the FULCRUM RACING ZERO C17 CLINCHER WHEELSET
Only 155 grams difference.
1538 grams for Zonda C17's. 2/3 cheaper and without those ghastly fat, crosswind catching alloy spokes.
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Old 02-21-2020, 09:31 PM
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They made them in clincher too, how come no more?

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Campagnolo Hyperon. Wait... that´s tubular. Get the Shammals.
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Old 02-21-2020, 10:50 PM
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Those Aussie Decadence wheels look terrific- know anyone who has them?

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Old 02-21-2020, 11:03 PM
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Those Aussie Decadence wheels look terrific- know anyone who has them?
Tubulars Right here ......




Also .....

https://weightweenies.starbike.com/f...f=113&t=156657

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Old 02-21-2020, 11:39 PM
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1538 grams for Zonda C17's. 2/3 cheaper and without those ghastly fat, crosswind catching alloy spokes.
Zondas are cheap and pretty good. Hard to go wrong when you can get them for like $400 shipped or less. I’d either get those or actual aero wheels.
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Old 02-22-2020, 12:01 AM
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Budget would help, as a set of bora ultras, bonty xxx, enve 3.4s or customs with superlight rims and exotic hubs will feel like heaven but cost a mountain of cash.

Best bang for the buck if purchasing brand new is probably something like the fulcrum racing zero, HED Ardennes sl, or Boyd altamont lites. Custom gets awesome but pricey.

Good thing now is the rim brake market is so weak you’d probably be able to get a bitchin deal on awesome wheels if you’re patient and know exactly what you’d want.
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Old 02-22-2020, 06:06 AM
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In the thread in which I asked about what I would notice with a light carbon bike, several people said to stick with the Firefly and put some light wheels on it. The wheels on it now are White Industries T11 with HED Belgium rims, 32 rear, 28 front - not sure what the spokes are. I weighed them without skewers or cassette, but with Vittoria Corsa G+ 28mm tires and unknown tubes (short stem, ~25mm) at 1,300 g rear, 1,130g front. The tires new weight 530g (have two, weighed them) and if I guess 200g for the two tubes, I'm at 1,700g for the set with rim tape.

I'm 145 lbs. Please learn me what would be a good choice for lightweight wheels, both alloy, hybrid carbon/alloy if that makes sense, and carbon. Using Dura Ace 9000 brakes if that makes any difference. Corsas measure just over 28mm on the Belgium rims.
DT411 rims, DT350 hubs, 20Radial/24-2cross. A mix of CXRay and CXSprint spokes..Squorx alloy nipps..'About' 1450g..DT240 or DT180 for more $

If you'd like, I can build the above...for about $750..DT350 hubs.
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Old 02-22-2020, 06:47 AM
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Squorx alloy nipps


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Old 02-22-2020, 07:12 AM
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I would go Bontrager XXX 2 or 4 if you’re budget allows. 1300g for the 2, 1400g for the 4s. Great wheels all around.
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Old 02-22-2020, 07:16 AM
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Just weighted them, they are actually 1532 gram, 168g difference
Regular fulcrum zero are not the fulcrum equivalent to campy bora ones.

They make the fulcrum zero in carbon at 1340grams which is a better comparison as they are both carbon wheels.

Campy shamal would be better wheels to compare with regular fulcrum racing zero as both are the top alloy wheels.

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