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Old 02-18-2018, 03:41 AM
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Your suggestions: 650B 47-48mm knobby tires

I recently got a nice wheel set on the forum - 650B Velocity Blunt SS laced to DT Swiss 240s. Love these wheels.

They came with a pair of almost new Terrene Elwood Ultralight 650B 47mm. On paper these are great - they are ultra light (~430g), very supple and have a nice thread pattern.

After setting them up tubeless and taking them out on a 100k off-road ride, I need to find new tires. The Elwood will be great for dry gravel of any kind, but for the muck, slime, mud and wet leaves we normally ride on, these are horrible. I wiped out on slimey mud three times yesterday where my crew, all with proper knobby tires, rode on.

So I started my search for a replacement and came to realisation that the size and weight of the Elwood is somewhat unique.

Since the rims are so wide, the tires actually blow up to around 55mm. That is pretty much the limit of what my Seven (design for 45mm 700c) and Enve CX fork can fit. So I'm really looking for ideas for mud-oriented 650B tires at around the sub 450g weight, 45-48mm wide and tubeless ready.
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Old 02-18-2018, 03:50 AM
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If it fits...

Pacenti quasi moto.
I have it on my mtb, works fine.

https://www.biketiresdirect.com/prod...-650b-mtb-tire
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:22 AM
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Pacenti quasi moto.
I have it on my mtb, works fine.

https://www.biketiresdirect.com/prod...-650b-mtb-tire
Weis pal hit the nail on the head here. I was running a set on my i23 rims on my Vaya Travel.

They work great. Not ideal for muddy days in that frame because of clearance, but could fit your application well.

There was a set here in the forum for sale that were lightly used I thought. Worth investigating. I can take some measurements as well if you need them, just let me know.
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:17 AM
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I've got an unused pair of Panaracer Comet Hardpacks that don't fit in my frame. 49mm on a 21mm internal rim. Quasimoto might be better for leaves/mud though, if slower on firm surfaces.
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:39 AM
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My wife tried the Bruce Gordon Rock n' Roads on her MAP last summer.

She did a 170 mile gravel trip with us and they worked quite well.

Really, a great tire for the $$$$.

http://brucegordoncycles.bigcartel.c...-free-shipping
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:55 AM
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totally forgot about the RnR 650b version

thanks mango pal for bringing that up.

Love the 700cc version, can only imagine how good the 650b is
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Old 02-18-2018, 08:57 AM
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Pacenti quasi moto.
I have it on my mtb, works fine.

https://www.biketiresdirect.com/prod...-650b-mtb-tire
If they will fit your frame, this is a great answer.
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:06 AM
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i’ve got a lot of great rubber for gravel. rock’n’road, compass, terrene. interestingly, when it’s wet and slippery, none of these are useful. So it’s really about finding something that can use the available space. Very interesting that there are no options for knobby tires at 47mm/650B.
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Old 02-18-2018, 10:29 AM
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WTB Resolute on a Blunt should be in the 48mm range. Not sure if it will meet your requirements for slippery conditions, but it’s an option.
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Old 02-18-2018, 11:34 AM
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Wider than you're seeking, but I love my 2.1" Thunder Burt EVO Liteskin. They'd measure ~55mm or so on Blunt SS. Too bad there's not a 48-50mm version.
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Old 02-18-2018, 07:09 PM
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Wider than you're seeking, but I love my 2.1" Thunder Burt EVO Liteskin. They'd measure ~55mm or so on Blunt SS. Too bad there's not a 48-50mm version.
Yet to use mine in the wet.
How do they go in damp gravel? (won't be riding in muddy conditions).
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:33 AM
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Yet to use mine in the wet.
How do they go in damp gravel? (won't be riding in muddy conditions).
I normally use SBH and only install the Thunder Burts for specific rides. I've ridden on packed and loose gravel, but not damp or wet.
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:42 AM
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Mud changes everything. I almost always ride on some kind of Compass slick tires. They're awesome.

But when it comes to riding on mud, you really need grip. And there, using the same idea of "bigger is better" I was hoping for a tire that could utilise the available space on my Enve CX fork and rear triangle on my Seven.
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:43 AM
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I am not sure if these would work, but the Conti Mud King comes in 27.5x1.8”? If there is clearance, they’d be seriously grippy...
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:22 AM
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The Contri Mud King look to fit the bill. They are HEAVY but look to be the right solution for the problem.

https://www.bike-components.de/en/Co...g-Tyre-p47401/

They are also very cheap.
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