OT - Patriots, again- say it aint so Bill

[Ozz]

Originally Posted by vqdriver

i thought that was the one preceding the goal line interception?

That's right....

[72gmc]

Originally Posted by unterhausen

It's not like Craft is exactly all that smart, he just knows how to stay out of the way.

This is Mensa level for an NFL owner.

[djg21]

Originally Posted by FlashUNC

Amazing how long career can last when the defense isn't allowed to touch you.

Also, are we assuming Kareem never played basketball?

This is pure crap. The league protects All QBs and receivers equally, and you cannot say that Brady cannot or will not take a hit. One reason he is successful is because he sits in the pocket and throws despite knowing he’s going to take a hit. The Rams went after him last night when they could, and there was at least one blatant roughing call that was missed in the first quarter. That is precisely why the Pats are favored to win it all again next year. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ms/2767501002/

Here’s to Number 7 and the longest sports legacy ever.

[pinkshogun]

The Hall is prejudiced against defensive players. Dewey Evans should be in.

i see your point about deweys defense, he certainly saved more runs with his D than Rice but for about 10 years rice was one of the most dominate offensive threats. i still feel the hall should be for the best of the best...Seaver, Koufax ect..the no brainers...to me Rice is a second tier hall of famer but still worthy

[makoti]

Originally Posted by djg21

This is pure crap. The league protects All QBs and receivers equally, and you cannot say that Brady cannot or will not take a hit.

No they don't. AFCCG. Brady get hit on shoulder. Roughing. Mahomes gets a hit to the face. Play on. Brady rules, like Jordan rules were, are very real.

[johnniecakes]

Originally Posted by makoti

No they don't. AFCCG. Brady get hit on shoulder. Roughing. Mahomes gets a hit to the face. Play on. Brady rules, like Jordan rules were, are very real.

I really don't believe there is actual intent to favor one more than another These are judgement calls made in fraction of a second. We on the couch have the advantage of replays, different angles, and time. Do we really want every played reviewed and dissected for any possible call. I thought the refs did a great job last night letting them play

[buddybikes]

Last nights game was full of hacking, they let the defense play. That is one reason it was a low scoring game. Watch any play Gronk runs, he has people dragging all over him.

[Bruce K]

There definitely no calls or non-calls that jumped out last night. Overall, a well officiated game.

As for any criticisms of Robert Kraft, he is a self-made millionaire, parlaying Keystone Theaters into a huge media conglomerate.

He was instrumental in developing the current media contract(s) for the NFL.

He is a genuinely “regular” guy by all accounts (as much as someone in his position could be) and is extremely generous with his charitable work.

BK

[bikinchris]

Originally Posted by djg21

This is pure crap. The league protects All QBs and receivers equally, and you cannot say that Brady cannot or will not take a hit. One reason he is successful is because he sits in the pocket and throws despite knowing he’s going to take a hit. The Rams went after him last night when they could, and there was at least one blatant roughing call that was missed in the first quarter. That is precisely why the Pats are favored to win it all again next year. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ms/2767501002/

Here’s to Number 7 and the longest sports legacy ever.

Drew Brees has left the game with a bloody face at last three times this year. No flag for those hits. In fact, the last play in overtime against the Rams, he was hit in the face and no flag. No one was blocking any officials view of that hit. That was the second game changing play from a no call.

[djg21]

Originally Posted by Bruce K

There definitely no calls or non-calls that jumped out last night. Overall, a well officiated game.

As for any criticisms of Robert Kraft, he is a self-made millionaire, parlaying Keystone Theaters into a huge media conglomerate.

He was instrumental in developing the current media contract(s) for the NFL.

He is a genuinely “regular” guy by all accounts (as much as someone in his position could be) and is extremely generous with his charitable work.

BK

There was a call missed in the first quarter when Brady was whipped to the ground after the ball was long gone. I thought that blatant roughing. Goff was put on the ground unnecessarily once or twice too, but it was closer. The hit to Goff on the sideline was a good non-call. He was still in the field of play even if he was heading for the sideline. There was a lot of contact between receivers and defenders on both sides, and the refs did let it go.

[MattTuck]

Also worth noting that Brady's style is completely different than the more mobile QBs. His game is not taking hits unless absolutely necessary. His philosophy unless the game is on the line is, "life to fight another day." Brady is almost never in a foot race to the sideline. He just throws it away before it comes to that. Since most officials know this, there is usually very little doubt when Brady gets hit, and they are a bit quicker to throw a flag.

Other QBs have different approaches to the game. Certainly Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes open up different types of plays that the patriots could never run with Brady. Cam Newton for instance, puts his body on the line way more than Brady (and it is frankly a stronger more durable body than Brady's) but refs see that, and see the hits that he takes voluntarily, so it takes a little more for them to throw a flag.

Different styles puts them in different game situations and the officiating is different as a result.

Brady could well be the last great pocket passer.

[makoti]

Originally Posted by MattTuck

Also worth noting that Brady's style is completely different than the more mobile QBs. His game is not taking hits unless absolutely necessary. His philosophy unless the game is on the line is, "life to fight another day." Brady is almost never in a foot race to the sideline. He just throws it away before it comes to that. Since most officials know this, there is usually very little doubt when Brady gets hit, and they are a bit quicker to throw a flag.

Other QBs have different approaches to the game. Certainly Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes open up different types of plays that the patriots could never run with Brady. Cam Newton for instance, puts his body on the line way more than Brady (and it is frankly a stronger more durable body than Brady's) but refs see that, and see the hits that he takes voluntarily, so it takes a little more for them to throw a flag.

Different styles puts them in different game situations and the officiating is different as a result.

Brady could well be the last great pocket passer.

This would be a great explanation for "Brady Rules". He doesn't like to get hit, so if someone does, flag them. Everyone else likes to get hit, so it's ok.

[Bruce K]

Nope, you missed Matt’s point.

Stay in the pocket and certain rules apply. Leave the pocket and the rules actually do change.

BK

[Spdntrxi]

Originally Posted by makoti

This would be a great explanation for "Brady Rules". He doesn't like to get hit, so if someone does, flag them. Everyone else likes to get hit, so it's ok.

Donald threw him down like a wet rag in the 1st half...well after the play was done. I felt that was unnecessary.... but there was no flag.

[pinkshogun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDnLVHGdaEQ