Know the rules The Paceline Forum Builder's Spotlight


Go Back   The Paceline Forum > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-23-2020, 08:33 PM
bthornt's Avatar
bthornt bthornt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Jacksonville FL
Posts: 841
article on Outside magazine online about USA cycling and gravel racing

Here's the link: https://www.outsideonline.com/240945...-gravel-biking
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-23-2020, 09:05 PM
madsciencenow's Avatar
madsciencenow madsciencenow is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: N. Chicago area.
Posts: 4,265
I read this earlier today and it makes a number of good points and importantly, provides some good laughs.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Kirk JKS & MRB, Alliance G-road, & Top Fuel.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-23-2020, 09:15 PM
fiamme red's Avatar
fiamme red fiamme red is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 12,428
Quote:
Basically, if you were to draw a Venn diagram of USAC members and Mazda Miata owners, the two circles would overlap like a pair of wheels in a Cat 5 race.
Good to see that Bike Slob is still around, still making lame jokes.
__________________
It don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that certain je ne sais quoi.
--Peter Schickele
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-23-2020, 09:45 PM
dbnm dbnm is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 3,191
Love this

"According to its website, 84 percent of USAC’s membership is male, 40 percent is between the ages of 45 and 64, and according to a 2013 membership survey, nearly half had an annual household income of over $100,000. Basically, if you were to draw a Venn diagram of USAC members and Mazda Miata owners, the two circles would overlap like a pair of wheels in a Cat 5 race."
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-23-2020, 10:30 PM
Heisenberg Heisenberg is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: everywhere and nowhere
Posts: 853
nica: this is the way.

go to a race. see it happen. go "oh g'damn".
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-24-2020, 12:30 AM
9tubes 9tubes is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Amazonville, WA
Posts: 628
The article laments that USAC is not gaining membership. I've noticed that the race season starts earlier and earlier. There's a new team here in Seattle that's been active on Facebook to promote the team. They've been describing their 4-hour Saturday training rides since early December. Seattle has had over 80 days of rain since then. ("What!! That's almost every day!" Yes, you've done the math right.) For those seeking to train in the rain after work, it was dark at 5:44 today. Racing starts the first weekend in March.

I'll go out on a limb here and suggest to USAC that this is not alluring to potential members.

Last edited by 9tubes; 02-24-2020 at 12:34 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-24-2020, 09:49 AM
Gummee Gummee is offline
Old, Fat & Slow
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: NoVA for now
Posts: 6,473
This reminds me of the early days of mtn biking. ...and look what NORBA et al did to that.

No thanks.

Keep gravel gravel.

M
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-24-2020, 10:55 AM
echappist echappist is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,796
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gummee View Post
This reminds me of the early days of mtn biking. ...and look what NORBA et al did to that.

No thanks.

Keep gravel gravel.

M
what's the history there? did they "fight" IMBA for control?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-24-2020, 11:13 AM
Mark McM Mark McM is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 12,018
Quote:
Originally Posted by echappist View Post
what's the history there? did they "fight" IMBA for control?
IMBA is an advocacy group, and does not organize racing.

MTB racing started as a completely grass roots organization. Local organizations sprouted up, and then NORBA was created as the national organization group. NORBA was initially fairly benign, but then it was merged with USCF to form USAC, and then brought under the UCI umbrella.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-24-2020, 11:27 AM
Clean39T Clean39T is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 19,319
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbnm View Post
Love this

"According to its website, 84 percent of USAC’s membership is male, 40 percent is between the ages of 45 and 64, and according to a 2013 membership survey, nearly half had an annual household income of over $100,000. Basically, if you were to draw a Venn diagram of USAC members and Mazda Miata owners, the two circles would overlap like a pair of wheels in a Cat 5 race."
Except that USAC has done away with CAT-5 now, so his joke is quite stale...
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-24-2020, 11:31 AM
echappist echappist is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,796
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark McM View Post
IMBA is an advocacy group, and does not organize racing.

MTB racing started as a completely grass roots organization. Local organizations sprouted up, and then NORBA was created as the national organization group. NORBA was initially fairly benign, but then it was merged with USCF to form USAC, and then brought under the UCI umbrella.
ah, gotcha. thanks for the primer

I somehow read the original post as what did OBRA (as in, Oregon Bike Racing) did

this makes much more sense
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-24-2020, 04:24 PM
9tubes 9tubes is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Amazonville, WA
Posts: 628
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clean39T View Post
Except that USAC has done away with CAT-5 now, so his joke is quite stale...
As I understand it, USAC has replaced the Cat5 category name with the word "Novice" but everything else is the same (race length, upgrades, etc.).
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-24-2020, 04:54 PM
Mark McM Mark McM is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 12,018
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9tubes View Post
As I understand it, USAC has replaced the Cat5 category name with the word "Novice" but everything else is the same (race length, upgrades, etc.).
Ironically, when NORBA and USCF originally merged into USAC, they tried to replace the road race category number system (5-4-3-2-1) with the MTB category name system (Novice-Sport-Expert-Elite). That didn't go over so well, so they kept the original USCF numbering system. But now it appears that both road and MTB have a mish-mash - road is now Novice-4-3-2-1-Pro, and MTB is Novice-2-1-Pro.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.