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Old 02-14-2024, 09:30 AM
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Never weeping while riding, but weeping if you deflate the tire and reinflate, then it will seal again. Improving the fit between the tire and rim by adding more layers of rim tape should work, unless the bead is damaged.

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Old 02-14-2024, 09:52 AM
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That has never been my experience across a half dozen or so tubeless setups and a lot more tires than that. I always mount and inflate the tire without sealant to ensure it fits. Tires usually hold air for a few minutes, tops.
Interesting that you only see a few minutes. I mounted a pair of 32c NEX.Ts to a pair of HED Belgium Rs without sealant a couple of weeks ago and they stayed fully inflated for 48 hours before I got around to adding sealant. With Reserve Fillmore valves. Maybe the valves helped.
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Old 02-14-2024, 09:55 AM
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Never weeping while riding, but weeping if you deflate the tire and reinflate, then it will seal again. Improving the fit between the tire and rim by adding more layers of rim tape should work, unless the bead is damaged.
Panaracer tires almost always require more layers of tape.
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Old 02-14-2024, 09:59 AM
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Panaracer tires almost always require more layers of tape.
Yes, my experience as well, also Rene-Herse since Panaracer makes these tires under contract.
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Old 02-14-2024, 01:01 PM
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So yes. Thanks for the suggestions.
The tire came off too easily after some stretching. So I added a layer of gorilla tape and a thin outer layer of tape. Got everything back on. Added orange seal and we’ll see how it goes.
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Old 02-14-2024, 02:57 PM
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did you clean the rim hooks of any dried sealant? maybe it's preventing the bead from locking in
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Old 02-14-2024, 04:36 PM
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Never weeping while riding
I will try not to weep while riding, but sometimes the emotions hit me unexpectedly.
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Old 02-14-2024, 05:28 PM
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Rene Herse

I found that I needed to run Orange Seal to get RH tires to be somewhat reliable. Even then, they might let you down after a long drive or surprise you the morning of an event...
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Old 02-14-2024, 11:02 PM
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I had definitely cleaned out the bead when I'd retaped them when switching tires.
It does seem like the bead stretched a bit more than other tires I've run, based on how easily they came off.
I'm hoping that extra layer of gorilla tape does the trick. That's quite an addition.
It held air during a 18 mile lunch road ride. I'll see how it does on gravel and mild single track.
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Old 02-17-2024, 12:30 PM
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I havne't used a tremendous amount of sealant brands, but have always had minimal air loss with Stans and Motul.
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Old 02-17-2024, 03:43 PM
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That's a whole lotta consecutive posts for one day. Makes sense now --classifieds.

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Old 02-17-2024, 04:03 PM
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Slime sealant if you want to stick things to the rim. Positives and negatives there.
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