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Upgrade to Campy 11s or 12s?
3 of my bikes are outfitted with Campy 10s but I’m looking to “upgrade” to 11s or 12s on at least one of my rigs through the next couple of months. There are no issues with my 10s gear...... just looking for some newer shifty bits and selling my 10s gear here on PL. A few questions:
- i know 11s cassettes work with no issue on any of my 10s FHB’s but is the same also true for 12s? - most of my stuff right now is either Record or Chorus and I’d probably be sticking with the same on this upgrade. 12s so far has only been available as Record or SR but looking on the Campy website it looks like Chorus is also available as 12s now..... maybe that’s new recently? - any experience on 12s versus 11s on functionality and longevity? I don’t swap components or upgrade a whole bunch so looking for something with a LONG life. the 10s stuff has been flawless in that department. Any comments appreciated. Thanks in advance. |
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Put me down as interested as well, I'm in the same boat as you OP. The thing that has turned my head is the Chorus 12 speed with a 32/48 crank. I use 34/48s on all my 10 speed Campy equipped bikes now and I have two frames that need components.
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About a week ago I heard Campy NA was about to get more Chorus 12 in stock. I'd go with Chorus 12 since it's a better value relative to the other groups and you might as well go with the latest thing even though Campy supports older stuff for a long time. I understand the 12 speed cassettes work on existing hubs. By the time you need a new cassette, Potenza will probably be 12 speed if you want to save money and don't mind a few extra grams. I don't believe you can do 53-39 rings with Chorus if that matters to you, but a 52-11 is only too small a top gear if you're getting paid to ride or close to that level. The ergonomics of the newer levers is really nice.
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You can't get a 53/39 Chorus 12 crank, but there shouldn't be a problem with a record 12 crank and probably no problem with an 11 speed crank. Chorus offers 53/36, 50/34 and 48/32 cranks.
The chorus 12 shifting shifting is excellent. If you don't want to spend a lot for the campy chain tool, a cheap park tool will work to shorten the chain. A kmc 12 or sram eagle quick link will join a Campy chain. I find that the sram axs 12 chain also works and is quieter. I have the 48/32 with 11-34 cassette. |
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I'd imagine upgrading from 10s to 12s would be a huge significant jump in performance.. I went from 1st/2nd gen 11s to the 3rd gen 11s and the performance of shifting was night and day. Campy still has that snappy shifting characteristic but the front shifting is Shimano like now. The rear shifts are butter smooth too!
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My reason for buying Chorus 12 was the 48/32 crank and 11-34 cassette. Neither is available with Record. What you might need depends on where you ride and how old you are. |
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If your hubs are Chris King, they won't take 12s. Last edited by jtbadge; 09-10-2019 at 10:49 PM. |
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Just curious what the duty situation and costs from Merlin the US might be.
I have pre 2015 Chorus and SR/Ti-Cult. I can't imagine SR12 shifting better, or anything cabled for that matter.
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I have a couple of sets of older Campy Eurus and Mavic Ksyrium SSC wheelsets that currently have 10 speed cassettes. Any issue in running Campy 12 speed cassettes on these older wheels?
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I have not had an issue running 12spd on 9,10,11spd freehubs, but I am not sure if all of them are compatible?
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12S front derailleur available in braze on only? (Buy appropriate clamp separately...)
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