Open min.d opinion?

[Likes2ridefar]

Eyeing an open min.d in my size and curious on feedback for those that own one. Anything to be aware of for a 2022 model?

[Clean39T]

Originally Posted by Likes2ridefar

Eyeing an open min.d in my size and curious on feedback for those that own one. Anything to be aware of for a 2022 model?

I thought the ride feel on it was amazing, as was the build quality - the main thing is whether you can get your fit parameters just right on it..

[isaacneff]

I wouldn't. They are a mess, horrible frame fittings (TINY set screws, don't fit the frame well, can't be changed without re-routing the hose) seat post design is awful and very fragile, poorly designed dropout, BB interface issues...

Not to mention super weird geo with it's slack SA.

I'd skip Open across the board.

[Likes2ridefar]

Yikes! Thanks for the feedback.

Looks like I’ll dodge this one due to the questionable saddle height. It’s so close it’s probably not worth the risk.

[bigbill]

I am thankful that Clean had fit issues because I bought his. The ride is sublime, and the seat mast topper is finicky, but the set screws are to prevent the seat from rotating, so using a torque wrench is vital. I enjoy the bike; I have it set up with Red AXS (from Clean) and some Boyd wheels with 32s, which will easily clear, even with some stuff stuck to the tires. It's not a race bike, it's a long day in the saddle bike.

[Likes2ridefar]

That is exactly what I’m after so I’m not going to write the model off. The one I found though is not going to work after learning more about the seatmast. In the photo of the listing it looked very long and I was surprised it still was looking to barely be tall enough for my fit once I got the measurements.

[LJohnny]

Originally Posted by isaacneff

I wouldn't. They are a mess, horrible frame fittings (TINY set screws, don't fit the frame well, can't be changed without re-routing the hose) seat post design is awful and very fragile, poorly designed dropout, BB interface issues...

Not to mention super weird geo with it's slack SA.

I'd skip Open across the board.

Agree with all of this. Skip.

[Erikg]

Originally Posted by Likes2ridefar

That is exactly what I’m after so I’m not going to write the model off. The one I found though is not going to work after learning more about the seatmast. In the photo of the listing it looked very long and I was surprised it still was looking to barely be tall enough for my fit once I got the measurements.

May I ask what listing? I've been interested in one of these for awhile.

[Likes2ridefar]

Originally Posted by Erikg

May I ask what listing? I've been interested in one of these for awhile.

It’s on pros closet. 1399 appears pretty mint. I doubt you’ll find a better deal…they offered me a $50 coupon via email when I asked about it.

https://www.theproscloset.com/produc...-frameset-2022

[bigbill]

Originally Posted by Likes2ridefar

It’s on pros closet. 1399 appears pretty mint. I doubt you’ll find a better deal…they offered me a $50 coupon via email when I asked about it.

https://www.theproscloset.com/produc...-frameset-2022

That's a good deal as long as it fits. Clean's was an XL, and my seat height is 84cm. My seat mast is uncut with one 3mm spacer. I use the long topper, which has the larger set screws, and lots of carbon paste. It has a Ritchey one-bolt seat clamp with pieces for round or rectangular saddle rails. As I posted earlier, mine has Red AXS with a powermeter DUB crankset. I put a few thousand miles on it last summer in Wyoming, and grudgingly, it's my current favorite bike. It's also the lightest bike I've ever ridden.

[edgerat]

I had one for about two days. Could NOT get the seat post to stay put, I tried everything and a couple different brands of carbon paste, nothing worked.

[pedalwildrako]

What alternatives to the min.d do you consider?

FWIW, I test rode a Giant Contend and didn't like the tall stack. Obviously a huge price difference, there.

Since I service my own bikes, I'd prefer NOT routing hydraulic brakes through the headset.

[bigbill]

Originally Posted by edgerat

I had one for about two days. Could NOT get the seat post to stay put, I tried everything and a couple different brands of carbon paste, nothing worked.

I struggled a little with the topper. I ended up taking it all apart and very carefully torqued the two setscrews a quarter turn at a time. It's been good for a year now. Finish Line paste was generously applied.

[LJohnny]

Originally Posted by bigbill

I struggled a little with the topper. I ended up taking it all apart and very carefully torqued the two setscrews a quarter turn at a time. It's been good for a year now. Finish Line paste was generously applied.

Which is your preferred torque wrench for low values, i.e. max 3Nm? Thanks

[Wakatel_Luum]

Originally Posted by isaacneff

I wouldn't. They are a mess, horrible frame fittings (TINY set screws, don't fit the frame well, can't be changed without re-routing the hose) seat post design is awful and very fragile, poorly designed dropout, BB interface issues...

Not to mention super weird geo with it's slack SA.

I'd skip Open across the board.

Yeah I saw a post on here awhile back describing poor alignment etc.

And the fact they bagged Campagnolo's hydraulic lines being an issue when it looked like Open were clearly the problem.