OT: Electric Vehicles--anyone driving them or seriously looked at them?

[benb]

Originally Posted by fourflys

I would agree.. most of the Ubers I've been in have been ok, but certainly were high-milage, cheaper sedans/SUVs or hybrids.. to be fair, I don't Uber that often, so YMMV for sure..

I googled it and apparently there was even a joint Tesla/Hertz/Uber thing where they rented you a Model 3 to use for your ride share vehicle.

Sounds like it was part of the disaster that just ended, it was costing the drivers > $1000/month to rent the Model 3.

And then the issue is you waste like 1-2 hours of the workday trying to charge the Tesla at the Superchargers, which means paying a premium for charging and the opportunity cost of not actually taking fares while you're waiting for the car to charge. It seems most of the people doing this did not own a place to charge.

It sounded like it worked and you could make money, but only if you drove so many hours per week that if you were on a CDL you'd be in trouble.

[Ken Robb]

The average cost per KWH in San Diego in November was $.477 and it can go as high as $.68 so I don't think buying an EV here to save on fuel costs makes a lot of sense.

[Louis]

Originally Posted by Ken Robb

The average cost per KWH in San Diego in November was $47.7

OUCH !!!

[Gsinill]

Originally Posted by Ken Robb

The average cost per KWH in San Diego in November was $47.7 and it can go as high as $.68 so I don't think buying an EV here to save on fuel costs makes a lot of sense.

I assume this should read $.477

[Ken Robb]

Originally Posted by Gsinill

I assume this should read $.477

Yep, but for people who live away from the beach where our temps rarely reach 80F the cost of A/C to deal with 100F highs may make them think they were paying $47 per KWH.

[robt57]

My Sis in CA is in the 19% below avg CA cost/kWh. Still double PDX thanks to the Columbia and Hydro power...

But CA is pretty much like this. Son's refurb Pruis HV plant $4k, Sis's C-Max was going to be north of $6k in CA.

[Davist]

wow I pay $0.13/kwh in PA...

[kppolich]

I have my Model 3 set to charge at night to line up with our electricity provider's Night and Weekends off peak hours....

$0.05843/kWh

[robt57]

Originally Posted by kppolich

I have my Model 3 set to charge at night to line up with our electricity provider's Night and Weekends off peak hours....

$0.05843/kWh

What is full cost per kWh with transmission fees for this 'off peak'?

The off peak of under .05 here when I looked into it 2 years back had additional .055 per kWh we pay for each kWh added to it. Why I didn't do it was the higher peak rate if we used dryer, a/c, Elec WH wrong tome of day etc scared me off.

[saab2000]

Originally Posted by kppolich

I have my Model 3 set to charge at night to line up with our electricity provider's Night and Weekends off peak hours....

$0.05843/kWh

Did you move to Iowa so you can be closer to the finish of RAGBRAI?

That’s a great rate. We don’t have off-peak rates where I did. I wish we did! But I’m also thankful what I do pay is quite less than those California rates. Yikes!

[PSC]

My wife and I supercharged at Clackamas Oregon and it was .14 per kwh. Added a 150 miles for a little over $5.

[merckxman]

Hmmmm, another consideration:
"Electric cars lose as much as half of their value after just three years on the road, new figures show, as the rate of depreciation far outstrips gasoline equivalents. Research from Auto Trader said there were “unsustainable levels of depreciation” in the electric car market.

[tomato coupe]

Originally Posted by merckxman

Hmmmm, another consideration:
"Electric cars lose as much as half of their value after just three years on the road, new figures show, as the rate of depreciation far outstrips gasoline equivalents. Research from Auto Trader said there were “unsustainable levels of depreciation” in the electric car market.

"As much as" doesn't mean much.

Overall, cars average 9% depreciation per year in the first 5 years. SUVs depreciate 10% (average) per year in the first 5 years. EVs depreciate 13% (average) per year in the first 5 years.

[saab2000]

EVs are not an “investment” ever and only make financial sense if a buyer buys them and keeps them long enough to offset the electrical cost vs. gasoline cost over time. That’s a pretty long time.

They don’t make financial sense for most buyers unless a buyer can pay cash and intends to keep it for a long time. Only the buyer can know if that’s worth it.

Only over time, as adoption normalizes can we see the real depreciation as a market for used EVs develops.

[AngryScientist]

When I buy a vehicle, or a bicycle for that matter, resale value is not even a consideration in my buying decision tree.

My guess is that the execs at Hertz feel a bit differently

https://www.hertzcarsales.com/smitht...netPrice%20asc