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Old 10-09-2024, 05:46 PM
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I dont think anyone is really anti-helmet, just potentially anti-rules.
I am anti-rules but pro-wearing for bicycle helmets. But there are people who are anti-helmet for sure. I was never sure how many of them there are, on forum discussions they tend to repeat themselves a lot. And the antis tend to show up on any discussion of helmets, no matter how uninteresting their arguments might be to the other people participating.
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Old 10-09-2024, 05:46 PM
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Just curious; as a neurologist, surely you've dealt with patients who have slipped and fallen in the shower or tub, and suffered a head injury. Do you always wear a helmet when in the shower or tub?

Cycling is my most "risky" activity & takes up way too much of my free time. (highways are usually too crowded in LA to be risky)

An analogy as rationale - I'm told cardiologists tend to avoid endurance sports (century rides e.g.), take statins early and get cardiac CT angiograms. To me this reflects disease seen in practice (a fib and endurance for example).

When I am older will convert bathtub to shower because I know what happens to balance with age even amongst the healthiest.

If a patient is at risk for falls (Parkinson, neuropathy e.g.) I send to physical therapy for gait and balance and depending on risk, home health out for safety - to install a shower grab bar as one example.

If a patients has epilepsy that is active - I counsel to AVOID heights & ladders.

One can't help but see patterns from patient experience

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Old 10-09-2024, 05:59 PM
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Problem with this is that frail elderly have trouble getting up off the floor.

Tubs are better with chairs.
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Old 10-09-2024, 06:08 PM
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Problem with this is that frail elderly have trouble getting up off the floor.

Tubs are better with chairs.
The key feature of that unit is that it has a door, so they don't have to step into or out of a high-walled tub. I've never needed to use one (yet!) but it may well have a siting section at the back end that the woman in the image appears to be using.
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Old 10-09-2024, 08:35 PM
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Just curious; as a neurologist, surely you've dealt with patients who have slipped and fallen in the shower or tub, and suffered a head injury. Do you always wear a helmet when in the shower or tub?
Assess risk vs likelihood and reward, then proceed.
Your bathtub example lacks a likelihood that comes anywhere close to cycling.

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seems relevant to me
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