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Old 11-16-2021, 06:38 PM
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That should be a card. Second time Pulisic got hauled down while cutting in from the flank

ETA: for once, the U.S. didn't get Concacafed. Should have been down a goal, but swings and roundabouts.

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Old 11-16-2021, 07:34 PM
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Sluggish and slow

What was the temp and humidity? Players looked sluggish. They also didn't seem to realize how slow the grass was. So many short passes were not weighted correctly.

Not up to the usual Tyler Adams standard for instance. Musah too. A. Robinson was bad.

An away point. Now to root for El Salvador. Do we root for Mex or Can or the draw?
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Old 11-16-2021, 08:52 PM
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Now to root for El Salvador. Do we root for Mex or Can or the draw?
Never root for El Tri. Ever.
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Old 11-16-2021, 09:44 PM
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Good point!
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Old 11-16-2021, 10:51 PM
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Good point!
At the current rate, a second dos a cero for LLL Tri.

And Canada getting Concacafed with the no-calls
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Old 11-17-2021, 08:35 AM
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Ugh

That US game was hard to watch, just never able to develop anything in the last 1/3 of the field... was pretty ugly all around.

I only watched the first 45 of the Canada game but man, similar type of game, lots of play in the middle 1/3, no one could develop and seemed like a foul every 30 seconds or so with lots of wining and flopping.

I forget who it was, but late in the 1st half there was a foul against Mexico and i swear he rolled on the ground 4 times ala Neymar, it was ridiculous.

Also, i never heard why that Jamaica goal was disallowed, wasn't offsides, I'm assuming it was a foul in the box? Jamaican player looked to be holding our defender down and he got the ball, so assuming that's the call, but wasn't 100% sure. Sure was tough not having any of these games in English, the CAN v. Mex game was on 2 channels for me, both in spinach
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Old 11-17-2021, 08:58 AM
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There's this... so funny...

https://twitter.com/BodogCA/status/1...041855820.html
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Old 11-17-2021, 11:36 AM
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Also, i never heard why that Jamaica goal was disallowed, wasn't offsides, I'm assuming it was a foul in the box? Jamaican player looked to be holding our defender down and he got the ball, so assuming that's the call, but wasn't 100% sure.
Yes, foul in the box on the attacker is what I read.
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Old 11-17-2021, 11:45 AM
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Not sure how Tata still has a job after losses to BOTH US & Canada.

But, hey, I hope he keeps doing whatever he is doing. USMNT still has to play El Tri in Azteca.
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:47 PM
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That US game was hard to watch, just never able to develop anything in the last 1/3 of the field... was pretty ugly all around.

I only watched the first 45 of the Canada game but man, similar type of game, lots of play in the middle 1/3, no one could develop and seemed like a foul every 30 seconds or so with lots of wining and flopping.

I forget who it was, but late in the 1st half there was a foul against Mexico and i swear he rolled on the ground 4 times ala Neymar, it was ridiculous.

Also, i never heard why that Jamaica goal was disallowed, wasn't offsides, I'm assuming it was a foul in the box? Jamaican player looked to be holding our defender down and he got the ball, so assuming that's the call, but wasn't 100% sure. Sure was tough not having any of these games in English, the CAN v. Mex game was on 2 channels for me, both in spinach

The ref in the Canada v Mexico game was out of his depth. 38 fouls and only three cards shown. There should have been one penalty against Mexico as well...

As for the disallowed Jamaican goal, as @cgolvin posted, it's for a foul on Zimmerman. Most of the time, that foul would not be given, but the USMNT got lucky for once. Happens when the Concacaf refs take charge of a game (notice a recurring theme)?

To be fair, there was some seriously bad fouls comitted by the Jamaicans, but the offenders were not carded. Ditto for the fact at least one Jamaican defender should have seen red in the first match.

Also, apparently Musah (who had been great in his role as a ball carrier) had a strep throat. That shows that despite the high quality of the first choice 11, things can get dicey fast once we go to replacements.

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Not sure how Tata still has a job after losses to BOTH US & Canada.

But, hey, I hope he keeps doing whatever he is doing. USMNT still has to play El Tri in Azteca.
Indeed. Long may it continue.


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Old 12-05-2021, 11:39 AM
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Well, there's only one American coach left in the Bundesliga. True to his name, Marsch receives his marching orders. Apparently, the guy couldn't organize a defense even in the Austrian league...

At this point, perhaps better to have Nepotism Greg in place.
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Old 12-05-2021, 09:18 PM
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Marsch receives his marching orders. Apparently, the guy couldn't organize a defense even in the Austrian league...
OK, I'll bite: says who? (Links in German also welcome)

I found it odd that a team with supposed title ambitions would sell both of their centre backs.

I also thought they played well in the Champions League games I saw, and narrowly missed out on some results in a very tough group. Lack of defensive rigor might be a fair charge though, given their record in the league.

Hope he gets another chance at a high-profile job.
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Old 12-05-2021, 10:05 PM
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OK, I'll bite: says who? (Links in German also welcome)

I found it odd that a team with supposed title ambitions would sell both of their centre backs.

I also thought they played well in the Champions League games I saw, and narrowly missed out on some results in a very tough group. Lack of defensive rigor might be a fair charge though, given their record in the league.

Hope he gets another chance at a high-profile job.
A few different places are reporting it, including The Guardian

I do agree with you though, that Red Bull didn't make it easy on Marsch. Marsch certainly wasn't set-up to succeed.
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Old 12-05-2021, 10:17 PM
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Sorry, not the firing . . . about poor defensive organization with Salzburg.
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Old 12-05-2021, 10:38 PM
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Fair point, I got a bit carried away with that.
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