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I've definitely decided I will not buy another internal combustion engine. That said, I'm not running to buy an EV; mostly because I don't need one yet. I'll be running my cars into the ground, and then I think we can get away with one + cargo e-bike.
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Agreed. Lots of pearl clutching going on WRT EVs but nobody talks about the electrical needs of the ever increasing number of big box stores and online shopping warehouse centers, etc. There are lots of things that demand electricity but EVs seem to cause angst for some. The misinformation campaigns of the petroleum industry are successful with many people.
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You forgot bitcoins
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The comments about "pearl clutching" and the grid capacity are misplaced. The annual consumption of electricity in the US has stayed steady since about 2010. per statista The deregulation of the electrical grid resulted in typical utilities getting out of the "generation" business and into the "transmission and distribution" business. As a result, we're ill equipped to take on additional capacity. The (while still relatively low percentage) adoption of solar and wind had added instabilty to the grid. Here's a look at the so called "duck curve" for solar in CA here This hasn't yet begun to be addressed and the short term and acres of battery energy storage are not practical (neither is vehicle to grid at this point. Hopefully we'll figure it all out but the next few years may be bumpy. Look at UK's recent walk backs of both renewable and EVs off shore wind "distaster" commentary
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You mean old, inefficient, dirty power plants, many coal powered, being bought and re-started by gigantic bitcoin mining companies? Yup....
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...issions-soared
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Now burning gas and oil to offset solar every night in CA is a far greater load and environmental concern. CA consumption of electricity is over 15GW with 42% coming from natural gas as an example. |
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Just finished my second electric experiment and I will say the tesla Chargers are far superior to electrify America in both ease and function. Waited til 9 at night before we flew out to charge the Polestar a mall based electrify America charger and it was a chore. Tried two different chargers before finally finding one that would work, and even then it took three times of plugging it in to get it to recognize the car. Sucks too, because you are jockeying with other people trying to charge and there is a competition there that I can see leading to major altercations. There is no way to tell if a charger is functioning or not until you plug it in, so you have to find a slot, back in, plug up, realize it doesn't work, then move to another spot. By then, someone else has swooped in. We've all heard of range anxiety, but then there is charge anxiety. You can get decent charge in a short amount of time, but the 80-100% charge takes forever. Add to that, I'm in a rental, and I get charged $35 if I don't bring it back at 70% or more charge. So I have to sit there longer to overcharge so I can make it to the airport on time with enough charge left....It's just a bunch of stress you don't normally have to deal with. Charged twice for about 30 min each, spent a total of about $25 to charge. Opening up telsa superchargers will greatly help, but only if they keep adding them.
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The article didn't say that it couldn't be done, just that the path forward is more complicated than say the construction of the Interstate System, where a single regulatory body set standards, helped plan and finance a coherent system etc. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...smid=url-share (reposted; gift article) Last edited by paredown; 06-13-2023 at 10:43 AM. |
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Toyota stepping in where the need is perhaps greatest?
https://www.autonews.com/mobility-re...900-mile-range |
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wow! here in PA it's about $.02 on top of the $.09 per kWh
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What do you guys think of the Tesla Model 3 for $20K ??
https://www.kbb.com/car-news/a-tesla...in-california/ https://jalopnik.com/tesla-model-3-s...nia-1850510808 .
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My point about ‘pearl clutching’ isn’t in reference to anything you’ve said. I’m referring far, far up the thread (many pages ago) where there are comments full of misinformation and anxiety about EVs when, as others point out, they’re just another user, like air conditioners, electric ranges, heaters, etc. The sky has not fallen yet. We’ll see what happens. I’m not afraid of EVs being the downfall of our infrastructure. |
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I do know that if I hit the Powerball, one place I'm going to invest is high speed chargers in convenient locations for people doing errands like grocery stores, shopping malls etc. also at large hotels. that would be an easy add on the renting a hotel room. "Rent a room and the car charge is included."
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