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By the way, is it me, or have colors fallen out of favor? Anecdotally, it seems the bulk of new cars and suvs i see are black, white, silver or grey.
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Supposedly they will introduce a new blue and red color for the European market but I don't know when or if that'll come to the US. But I agree with you. The lack of color options is disheartening. Supposedly it's a very expensive part of the manufacturing process though and I'll give Tesla at least a bit of slack because 15 years ago they were a warehouse startup and a decade ago were just starting to produce at scale and still producing losses. Today they're profitable and I'd like to see more color options too as they grow. There are aftermarket wraps but I'd like to see my metallic red or metallic green right out of the factory. |
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It's interesting isn't it? Brighter cars are safer and car makers want safe cars but the public asks for white and grey cars. It's my understanding that most rental cars are white because it has the best resale value. Maybe we are boring and pick boring colors? dave |
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I think part of it is that color options aren't as available as they used to be. My childhood recollection is that Dad got cars in colors he wanted, while my last two car purchases (both pre-pandemic) taught me that most colors are now vaporware.
My wife's Mazda CX-9 is white because the soul crystal red that she wanted was only available on the most premium model, which she didn't want. |
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Over the last few decades, white cars have outnumbered all other colors. But black and silver are another large part of production numbers. Those are colors people don't seem to get tired of.
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We got the white Tesla, as we didn't want to pay the $2k extra for red. Lots of people are getting their cars wrapped, so they can get exactly what they want.
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Yup, great, informed, post. But I wish for two things when it’s time to replace my ICE car. I hope the range and ease of charging is comparable to an ICE car. And I hope those who sit is ‘big chairs’ and yell about ‘clean coal’ and how EVs will mean the end of civilization will be out of the political arena. There are going to be a lot of bribe$ from big oil, a lot of fake news about renewables, about a green economy, for a while.
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That Tesla blue does look fantastic in person.
I would think that Tesla has an audience that may be daring enough to go for more vibrant colors. For the record, we have white, silver and dull gray, and it's super boring to look at. Last edited by sparky33; 03-24-2023 at 07:53 AM. |
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https://www.rd.com/article/car-color-accidents-risk/ But regardless, it’d take a whole lot of convincing ($$$) for me to drive a yellow or Orange car. Even an exotic. I don’t even like bright colored bikes! |
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I find this discussion of EV's and our gradual acceptance of them interesting. Also how our grid system is adjusting to the newer ways to make electricity. And how old views on this subject are slow to change.
In 2015 my 2 brothers and I leased 15 acres of land in SW NC to a solar company to build a plant and produce electricity. Very rural area, nearest neighbor about 1/4 mile. Local county fought us, came up with all kinds of new ordinances, but we finally got it done. So the solar company built what they called a 2 MG plant (mega watt I guess). Produces enough electricity to provide for about 300 local homes in area (town about 6 miles away). We left them enough adjoining land to put in a battery system if they ever wished, because they told us eventually, they would want to install next generation panels (whatever that is), and those would make power on a cloudy day. Seems to me our grid is adapting very quickly to this increased demand. This power was to be sold to Duke Energy. Duke says in some of their reports, the average cost to them of producing electricity using a combination of nuc, coal, and nat gas is about 7 1/8 cents per kW hour. I know our solar operator was selling to Duke for a good bit less than that. And this part of NC is not as sunny as Florida or SW USA. Our solar operator told me that in AZ and parts of Texas, where they have some huge solar farms, and where they can lease land a lot cheaper than we got, they can produce electricity for less than 5 cents a KW hour. I don't know anything about wind power. And I will tell you that using that old farmland for this solar project is way better use of the land than what we were doing before with it. The question is how much renewable energy can we reliably make? I have since sold my share of that project. |
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To me, residential solar makes more sense than commercial solar. No land is taken out of service and the homeowner pays for the system and maintenance of it.
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His overall point was 'the change is closer than you think' and 'we may get there by market forces' which I found both inspiring and unsettling. Mind, this was before the 'Great Pandemic' -- so I would love to hear updates as to where we are. Last edited by paredown; 03-24-2023 at 11:11 AM. |
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Renewable is cheaper. Just a question of producing enough. And overcoming climate issues. Maybe some places you can't overcome climate issues. Imagine some fossil fuel production will be needed for a long time.
Solar and wind power are not some future tech way out in the future. it's here now and is a viable source. I just put a new roof on our house. Had many leaks develop on old roof over past 10 years or so from the solar water panels installed on roof to heat our pool. Maybe strong winds from several hurricanes blowing panels around contributed. I will never again bolt anything onto a roof. I would only do residential solar of I could put on ground near home. We put in a new electric heat pump to heat pool. Last edited by Ralph; 03-24-2023 at 12:20 PM. |
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If I am ever forced to buy a car that includes a bunch of cameras and microphones i will disable, cover or rip them out immediately.
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but the idea of a bunch of tech goons in an office somewhere making jokes about what goes on inside my car is beyond sickening. https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/s...135329460.html Quote:
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