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I'm not sure if you've kept up on things down this way, but the SM100 promoter has run into some big issues with the locals also, and they lost their permit to ride on the county roads and had to change up the race quite a bit. Its such a ridiculous thing when he has invested a lot locally and his events and campground bring money into the county year round. |
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And either way, the likelihood of anyone just walking into your house to steal stuff is so impossibly low, even living in a city let alone on a farm.
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Without question, we should all respect the property and communities of others as if they were our own. |
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Funny thing is where I live now I've only seen on of those "gun signs". It's up on old snowbasin road on the property of a mansion that looks like a small castle and has a gated driveway. "I have a gun...and a backhoe". So how does he figure into the stereotypical comments being made here? I just find the sign funny and the owner has waved and said hi on a couple of occasions as I pedaled up the mountain in the middle of a heart attack. |
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The issue with "net positive" is that it just takes a loud minority who don't benefit / are annoyed by something to stir up plenty of resistance. Sure, some folks (say, local B&Bs) love tourism, but often that isn't enough.
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Perhaps our rural areas (mid-South) are different from yours, but "this property protected by Smith and Wesson", "We shoot first and ask questions later", etc. type of signs are everywhere here. Many of our rural areas are rather poor, maybe that's a part of it. YMMV. |
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This has turned into a collection of anecdotes and generalisms about rural folk as if all people who choose to live away from the city are the same. Every event is cool until it gets too big. From grassroots to a lottery for an entry. Too many cars for road racing, mountain biking went from flowy trails to rock gardens, and now gravel is attracting the wrong attention.
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I snowboard and try to make it out west once or twice a season if time and funds allow. I'm Indian and grew up in Delhi moving to the US at 11 which makes me a huge outlier in many ways. Hilariously one of my friends whom I travel and ride with the most is also Indian, which is hilarious because we've only known each other for like two years, but we always point out all the brown folks we see on the mountain because it's rare. We also spend time in town. I've been to steamboat twice. Jackson hole once. SLC a couple of times including one time when we did a road trip to the Idaho border to ride and even drove and ate a meal in idaho. I'm saying all this because there were a lot of things I felt like I didn't belong in these spaces. It hasnt escaped my notice how there's all this talk of heritage creeping up at an event that's going out of its way to be inclusive. Fact is that these spaces benefit economically from these events. You're never going to have 100% buy in from a community which is fine but you need to build up good will and do things to help. If you're doing all that and have majority buy in then... Fact is. Gravel events need the support of communities like this. There needs to be some leadville esque energy to help these things succeed. |
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The more I read about big events like this that invariably attract the type A personalities, the less and less interested I am in participating. Riding alone or with small groups of like minded friends is so much better for me.
I think a lot of these "gravel" type of events have been allowed to get too big. Too many cyclists riding on what are intended to be rural farm roads is going to cause disruption and resentment, even if everyone acts perfectly, and we know the more people you accumulate, the more jerks will be present.
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We have very limited roads up here so they do disrupt everyone's lives. It probably wouldn't upset locals that much if it was the only event in a year. But it seems like each summer we have some kind of "event" every week where you have to figure out if it's even worth it to try to leave you house and do anything. Should anyone really have to feel like a prisoner in their own house? And yes, I am a hypocrite as I do try and do at least one ride event myself each year. |
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I find it hard to empathize with whiny ranchers when this is a norm for living in a city where events happen and likewise as a complaint where there's cattle and horses at pasture. The amount of shoes I've had ruined on hikes and time I've had to spend cleaning horse **** off my tires is absurd.
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