Campagnolo out of the World Tour

[thwart]

Originally Posted by Elefantino

POTD

Probably. But this seems a close second.

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

..not gonna get any new 's' tattoos.

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by Marvinlungwitz

Of note, in automobiles spindles are stationary.

Do not fold, spindle or mutilate.

[jimoots]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

It should be mentioned, that any team's choices of sponsorship stuff is based entirely on $, support, as compared to others. NOT the goods and bads of the
stuff offered. sram, particularly and Shimano make offers that can't be refused but the fact remains, the expense of sponsorship is YUGE, with sometimes hard to measure ROI.


In the early days of sram road stuff, it was so awful, teams(like EF) dropped it and paid for Shimano groups. They seem to have gotten better at making reliable stuff..seemed..Prfetty easy with vans full of parts and legions of mechanics.

As mentioned, as with any advertising $, Campagnolo sees better places to put their $....the whole "Win on Sunday, buy on Monday"..is pretty thin...

Shimano sponsor 4 teams, the rest pay (a discounted price) for it.

[dana_e]

Are they represented. Side note: I got some Campagnolo Bullet Ultra 50 off criagslist recently for cheap. I really love Campag wheels.

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by jimoots

Shimano sponsor 4 teams, the rest pay (a discounted price) for it.

Some teams don't pay for their components, instead they are supplied by their bike sponsor (bike companies often want their sponsored teams to be using the same components as on the bikes sold to consumers).

(Note: Very few complete bikes come stock with Campagnolo components, so Campagnolo components aren't likely to be on World Tour team bikes through this route.)

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by dana_e

What about Fulcrum wheels

Are they represented.

Here's the frameset/groupset/wheels sponsors from 2023:

https://www.bikeradar.com/features/p...rldtour-bikes/

There were no teams using Fulcrum wheels. The only team that was using Campagnolo wheels was AG2R, who were also using Campagnolo groupsets. For 2024, AG2R has switched to Shimano groupsets and SwissSide wheels. So it seems unlikely that there will be any Fulcrum wheels on World Tour team bikes next year.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by laupsi

observation; riding in the US I am basically the only one on our group rides still riding campy. While in Catalonia, 4-6 mos out of the year, about 40% of the folks in my group rides are on Campy.

Campagnolo's biggest markets are Japan and Europe..US a distant third.

[Ttx1]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Campagnolo's biggest markets are Japan and Europe..US a distant third.

There was no shortage of Campy in the shops in / around Girona when I visited last year....

[Black Dog]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Campagnolo's biggest markets are Japan and Europe..US a distant third.

I think the pan-asian sales are also very significant for Campy. North America is just not a significant market. We are being myopic when we assume that out North American experience and anecdotal notions is evidence of what is happening elsewhere.

There have been some entertaining assumptions and predictions that do not align with some of the facts about campy.

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by Black Dog

I think the pan-asian sales are also very significant for Campy. North America is just not a significant market. We are being myopic when we assume that out North American experience and anecdotal notions is evidence of what is happening elsewhere.

If Campagnolo is very popular in Asia, then from an economic standpoint you would think it would make sense to do manufacturing in Asia (which is, afterall, where the majority of other bicycle component brands are made). Or is one of the allures of Campagnolo that they are not made in Asia?

[ERK55]

Originally Posted by Mark McM

If Or is one of the allures of Campagnolo that they are not made in Asia?

Bingo. In parts of Asia (Japan in particular) the “Made in Italy” thing has a certain allure. And not just pertaining to bicycle parts.

[mcteague]

Originally Posted by ERK55

Bingo. In parts of Asia (Japan in particular) the “Made in Italy” thing has a certain allure. And not just pertaining to bicycle parts.

How about “made in Romania”?

Tim

[saab2000]

Since Campagnolo is privately owned and pretty secretive how do we know what their biggest markets are and whether or not they are profitable? Not trying to be cynical and I think we all hope they’re around for the foreseeable future but without insider knowledge we just don’t know.

I do feel like a 12-speed mechanical group could happen to get one while I still can.

[cgolvin]

In the category of "things we don't know about Campagnolo," I'm curious about whether the number of bike shops in the US that profess to work on Campagnolo bikes has changed appreciably in the past ~decade+ and, if so, by how much.

My anecdotal experience says that it has declined significantly. Even in a big city like Los Angeles with a significant population of cyclists, my choices are very limited AFAIK.

[Ttx1]

Super limited avail around Boston, except by special order.