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Old 07-03-2024, 12:21 AM
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Old 07-03-2024, 10:51 AM
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Old 07-03-2024, 10:54 AM
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This is the perfect bike, and if I only could have one probably not much would best it IMO.
I came really close to buying a size 64 road frame back in 2018- already had a MonsterCross frame for my gravel bike.
Ended up taking a frame building class from a local longtime builder which was an awesome experience, but I largely ended up with a road frame that closely mirrored the Black Mountain Road frame! Geometry was either identical or very similar for all measurements, so its basically just a lugged version.
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Old 07-03-2024, 11:37 AM
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Very nice! Need a better photo of the seat stay junction.
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Old 07-03-2024, 12:02 PM
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wow thats very nice, would love to take a framebuilding class
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Old 07-03-2024, 01:03 PM
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Very nice! Need a better photo of the seat stay junction.
It was a steep learning curve to get the seatstay angles and curves to match up with the seat tube.
I cut out a heart shape, brazed that to the seat tube, and then brazed the stays to the heart. The extra bit of metal was used because the diameter of the stays was too large to attach to the seat lug or elsewhere in a fastback style setup. So a bit of extra metal increased the size of the surface area to attach the stays.
There was a lot of cleanup, and the tight spacing made for a slow and long cleanup process.




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Old 07-03-2024, 01:07 PM
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It was a steep learning curve to get the seatstay angles and curves to match up with the seat tube.
I cut out a heart shape, brazed that to the seat tube, and then brazed the stays to the heart. The extra bit of metal was used because the diameter of the stays was too large to attach to the seat lug or elsewhere in a fastback style setup. So a bit of extra metal increased the size of the surface area to attach the stays.
There was a lot of cleanup, and the tight spacing made for a slow and long cleanup process.




Riding a bike you built! What a cool feeling! 🍻
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Old 07-03-2024, 08:54 PM
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My 90s 753 Reynolds frame has seat stays brazed onto seat tube same way. Well actually silvered on. Not seen that too often.
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Old 07-04-2024, 02:39 AM
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I believe this is the thread: https://weightweenies.starbike.com/f...?f=10&t=172847

Only issue seems to be the real triangle is flexy and there's some rub with the under bb brakes. Probably not a bike for a bigger rider anyway.
My money is on the wheels being flexy noodles. I had those exact wheels and got rub on every frame I ran them on: Lobster, Moots, 585. The chainstay-mounted brake being a poor choice is a totally different matter.

The English aesthetic is really not my thing, but I seriously doubt it's the frame in this case.
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Old 07-04-2024, 08:08 AM
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My money is on the wheels being flexy noodles. I had those exact wheels and got rub on every frame I ran them on: Lobster, Moots, 585. The chainstay-mounted brake being a poor choice is a totally different matter.

The English aesthetic is really not my thing, but I seriously doubt it's the frame in this case.

Difficult to imagine Ryan has only riden this frame set with one pair of wheels?

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Old 07-04-2024, 10:11 AM
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My money is on the wheels being flexy noodles.
The exact opposite reason is why a wheel rubs. Flexy wheel don't stay in plane as well as stiff ones. Thus the stiff one more likely to move more 180° the other side of axle under hard load.
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Old 07-06-2024, 07:55 AM
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I like that! Sometimes I wish I lived somewhere flat enough for a fixie, I had a Redline 925 back in the day as a commuter and it was so unpleasant to ride here that I sold it in frustration. I kick myself sometimes—it was a cool bike with medium reach brakes that could fit a (smooth) 35mm tire, but it was just the wrong tool for the job here.
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Old 07-08-2024, 03:19 AM
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Scored this team miyata yesterday, some new tires, saddle and a shallow handlebar with modern geo and it will be perfect

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Old 07-08-2024, 07:56 AM
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Ride pics to follow after 4 days riding in and around the Alleghenies. This is my 20+ year old C50 (currently sporting Ultegra 8000 and shallow Stans alloy clinchers to DT240s and rim brakes (!)). What a sublime ride. It’s still the most plush ride I have and one that I will never give up!
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Old 07-08-2024, 09:43 AM
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My 1st Strong is still going.... strong.

Number 1 for 13 years from 12/2000 delivery, then SS with a ENO for another +5. Sadly my old knees...

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