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Old 11-13-2024, 11:03 AM
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Another perspective I have is that this latest business model is probably based on someone that doesn't want to totally retire but still keep working some for personal reasons. I doubt Ben wants to "grow" the business but rather keep a small volume of work coming through to make a little extra money instead of watching daytime TV.

Customers with money expect a great pre-buying experience with a fabulous website like buying a luxury watch. But that set up can cost some serious money and draw more responses than desired. I'm sure he is happy his old business model is retired. The fact that his bicycle is expensive does not mean his profit margin is great.

For example I do not try and promote my framebuilding and painting classes because by remaining in the shadows still provides me the right volume of interest. The really serious do and the casuals don't. My work volume is just right. I can personally attend to those that really want to learn how to make frames. I don't have to be bothered with causal tire kickers and the merely curious. Bicycling is a hobby for many people that can enjoy chatting about it for a long time - often more time than what a person not on a salary can afford. This is often the reason bike builders and painters are hard to find. I see what Ben is doing as a nice way to wind down his business that is probably just right for him.
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Old 11-13-2024, 07:50 PM
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I see what Ben is doing as a nice way to wind down his business that is probably just right for him.
I agree. And if he can sell all he "makes," then good for him, and good for his customers.
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Old 11-13-2024, 09:18 PM
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I agree. And if he can sell all he "makes," then good for him, and good for his customers.
Same here. I am old enough to have retired years ago. But I still work some because I like what I do and it gives me some extra money. I still have two Serotta bikes that I love, and if Ben is still making them, then good wishes to him.
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Old 11-13-2024, 10:20 PM
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Ahhh....I see someone must be paying attention to the Paceline. Or, some Paceliner told Ben about our banter about Serotta's website (or lack thereof).

Because the website we could all access yesterday is no more and has been replaced with the following. Perhaps (soon?) we will all get to gawk at the goodies Serotta has been welding?
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Old 11-13-2024, 10:55 PM
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You'd think that with bikes costing $14k, they could afford a professional website designer.
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Old 11-14-2024, 07:23 AM
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Ahhh....I see someone must be paying attention to the Paceline. Or, some Paceliner told Ben about our banter about Serotta's website (or lack thereof).

Because the website we could all access yesterday is no more and has been replaced with the following. Perhaps (soon?) we will all get to gawk at the goodies Serotta has been welding?


You mean gawk at what he pays someone else to weld?

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Old 11-14-2024, 08:27 AM
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You mean gawk at what he pays someone else to weld?

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You mean like when he paid Dave Kirk, Kelly Bedford, or Dave Wages?
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Old 11-14-2024, 08:33 AM
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You mean like when he paid Dave Kirk, Kelly Bedford, or Dave Wages?
They all worked in the same building with him, not really the same thing.

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Old 11-14-2024, 08:55 AM
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They all worked in the same building with him, not really the same thing.

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Who's making these new bikes?
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Old 11-18-2024, 11:22 PM
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New website is live. Let the hating begin.
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Old 11-18-2024, 11:53 PM
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Kinda looks like they borrowed from the Seven Cycles tagline “One bike. Yours”

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Old 11-19-2024, 02:19 AM
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Kinda looks like they borrowed from the Seven Cycles tagline “One bike. Yours”
... or vice versa
Ben had this tagline from the beginning, even on the old homepage.

I like the homepage, especially as it includes a picture of me https://forums.thepaceline.net/image...ies/banana.gif
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Old 11-19-2024, 03:28 AM
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The bikes actually look good. Much better than I envisioned.
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Old 11-19-2024, 04:31 AM
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Ahhh....I see someone must be paying attention to the Paceline. Or, some Paceliner told Ben about our banter about Serotta's website (or lack thereof).

Because the website we could all access yesterday is no more and has been replaced with the following. Perhaps (soon?) we will all get to gawk at the goodies Serotta has been welding?

That makes sense to me. A simple or basic website, or even lack of a website until one is finished, is fine, and doesnt negatively impact my perception. Its the same wit custom guitars-many builders have a photo gallery and not much else.
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Old 11-19-2024, 04:39 AM
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I dig the TT
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