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I've got a friend in Germany that also didn't ride SBT GRVL, so there's at least two of you.
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I’m sure if local residents wanted to be a thorn in the side of “big gravel” they should discuss what “big gravel” hates the most…paved roads!
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I know that doesn't describe everyone in those areas, but the most vocal ones are in my experience. |
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Agreed, but it's not like having an extra 300 or so people around for a day is "living in the city".
It's one thing to want land and space, it's something else entirely to be a misanthrope. |
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And there's something wrong with that? Sounds like Utopia to me. |
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wow, lots of opinions on this one.. a couple of thoughts from me..
1. it was mentioned this race happened in peak hay season.. having some family that hays in Oregon, that is a BIG deal.. you may only have a day or two to get your hay done depending on weather.. and that means getting your equipment to/from the fields and getting your hay hauled to the final destination. Not an insignificant issue 2. it was also mentioned that the event happened at the same time as the state or county fair.. again, having grown up in an area where farming and 4H was King, this is a HUGE deal for that community.. if they can't get their livestock to and from the fair, that is a big deal.. even in 2023.. 3. finally, I think we all know riders/racers can be a-holes to both folks on the road and the environment.. I've seen a lot of folks mention NIMBY.. well, some riders view that the other way.. they don't don't care how they leave the scene since it's not their back yard.. not all or maybe even most, but it only takes a few.. it sounds like they can make some changes in the future (dates that don't conflict with the fair or prime haying times) and some logistical and route changes and could make it work..
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I can see how those folks would have a problem if 3000 Lycra-clad weirdos showed up for a ride. Folks who live where I ride used to respond to BAM (Bike Across Missouri) with tacks in the road.
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I think this is probably a tempest in a teapot and just a local conflict between the ski town and the surrounding ranchette owners. BTW, when I ride gravel, I’m looking for an outdoor experience and pee wherever I want. |
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Bike-packing in rural VA, every other house seems to have signage to the effect of “NO TRESSPASSING WE HAVE GUNS AND KNOW HOW TO USE THEM!” And the alternate houses have purple flashes on all the trees. I have a coworker with acreage out in the boonies. He once got in a huff because somebody XC skied across the edge of his property. I couldn’t understand why he was upset. It’s just trees out there (no farming operation to disrupt, not near his home/garden, etc). He only knew they were there because the skied after work and had headlamps on - had they gone through mid-day, he likely would never have known. |
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Is there a problem with respecting someone's privacy and their property? Oh and for reference. I still have the scar on my shoulder from a hunter trespassing on our farm. Dumb ass heard me and shot in my direction without even identifying what he was shooting at. Luckily I just lost a chunk of meat off the point of my shoulder. And in earlier years we had one of our prized Tennessee Walking Horses shot and hobbled by another idiot trespassing to hunt on our farm. Last edited by jamesdak; 01-08-2024 at 08:05 PM. |
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Rural areas wouldn't have electricity and other infrastructure without the economic engine of the urban areas. Of course, rural areas provide farmland and other things needed by the cities. It seems silly to pretend that one doesn't need the other. |
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I wasn't being judgmental toward people who prefer rural life, I just don't get the hostility toward "outsiders" that sometimes accompanies it. I don't get mad when rural people come into "my" city to buy groceries, go out to eat, shop, or work. I'd wager no one on this board would trespass to hunt, but most of us would happily ride public roads away from where we live. I think the difference there is pretty clear. Last edited by tommyrod74; 01-08-2024 at 08:09 PM. |
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“Beyond the Myth of Rural America“ https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-rural-america |
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99.9% of the people that pass by a house/farm/etc out in rural areas are respectful, wont bother you and will probably wave. But instead people want to put up all of the signs and not so thinly veiled threats of violence for 100% of the people to see. It makes me scratch my head and wonder what it is they're afraid of out where there's 11 people in a square mile or they think everyone's coming by to steal something. |
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