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As far as the fork travel, that sounds like plenty for a drop-bar bike, any more would mostly be annoying except when descending rough trails.
I've ridden through this early spring on a cheap hybrid with a very short-travel SR-Suntour fork and some 1.9" tires that I fitted, and the 40mm suspension travel is very much appreciated even without having any damper (spring only)! $1k suspension units scare me off, but I am not the target for the CC fork. And given the likely high parts costs and vulnerability of the stanchion tube surfaces, they should incorporate rubber gaiters or at least offer a well-designed pair as an option. The old Rockshox P-R forks had very limited air-sprung travel but ate up typical bumps in the road nicely, so I appreciate that newer lightweight minimalist designs are being made available for drop-bar bikes, it's about time. Last edited by dddd; 04-15-2024 at 07:45 PM. |
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What is different is the average rider has gone from 145 lbs to 200lbs. As a people, we have gotten fat - and stupid. Everything old is new again. Even Fox's new 32mm, reverse arched, spring backed IFP piston fork - is basically a Manitou with an Intrinsic damper from 2005. What I don't doubt is that the new stuff is much better made. |
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I look forward to other innovative world firsts like:
first spoked wheel first pickleball paddle first alcoholic seltzer first avocado toast |
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Oh good, another amateur philosopher watched Idiocracy for the first time
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Yeah, there’s nothing new under the sun. I’m also of the mindset that if a course needs suspension it’s likely time for mountain bike. But everyone has to ride what works best for them. The coolest of the suspended road bikes were the Bianchi dual suspension bikes at Paris-Roubaix from about 30 years ago. They didn’t win and a few years later the same riders were winning on Colnago C-40s with no suspension. |
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Agree with others, thought of Lauf right away...
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50% of my point. What do you weigh?
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There is a time and a place for talking about the decline of modern man. A cycling forum post about gravel suspension is not it
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Give it a rest or take it to Reddit
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I am not saying you are wrong because I admittedly have 0 idea what the average weight for all adult cyclists was at any point in history, but 145 pounds just seems so far from current reality that it is difficult to even conceptualize. |
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Question: Is this fork intended for aftermarket sales, or are gravel bike makers designing around (this or other) short travel suspension forks? Even a short travel suspension fork is substantially taller than a rigid fork, and retrofitting one in place of a rigid fork will result in a significant change in the geometry, and therefore the fit and handling, of a gravel bike.
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In addition a modern fork has the benefit of straighter stanchions that are more concentric with significantly better surface treatments. The rubber in seals and rings is better, the air chambers and pathways are designed following more applicable theory and spring curve tuning the same. A Vittoria Corsa Pro Speed is basically a Continental Gatorskin with slightly thinner rubber -> This isn't logical framing for the discussion. |
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I am convinced that generalized referencing of Idiocracy is the modern version of generalized referencing 1984 in prior decades.
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Right now the industry loves slacker and more stability. End users seem to downplay the differences. The first time I rode a gravel fork on a frame designed without intent for it I was pretty blown away by the handling difference but the owner was nonchalant and said he hardly noticed anything. I mean look at how regular Joes struggle to talk about trail - changing that along with reach etc, while also adding suspension is a lot to internalize and structure mentally to discuss with someone else. For most riders it's probably going to be a good thing anyway. There does seem to be indications fork height is increasing. For "normal" rigid fork designs 395-400 atc is becoming less common with more forks 410+. Tire clearance and fork compatibility both benefits. |
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