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Old 04-27-2024, 02:55 PM
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I would like to know more about this bike, its a stunning piece of art, perfect symmetry. Do you Know the builder, or a link to it, thanks in advance.

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That would be one of the Pegoretti models.
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Old 04-28-2024, 12:57 AM
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Minor hack / tip - this frame was built with Sachs ÜOS tubes, so the BB shell has cable guides instead of being drilled for a plastic thread-on unit. The drawback to Sachs' design is that metal cables ruin the paint. I ended up finding some 2.4mm heatshrink and fitting it to the cables to reduce the potential for paint damage. Seems to work like a charm.
Paul had a write up on your bike on his blog today
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Old 04-28-2024, 01:33 AM
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Very cool. I never really thought of the bike having multiple builder’s hands on it, but it’s a nice sentiment and makes the frame even more meaningful for me. There’s actually one other builder to add to that list, Hugh Black, of True North Cycles, since the geo was based off the last bike he made for me, 10 years ago.

I took the bike out for a quick spin around the block today and a few thoughts:

1. Paul nailed the geo - it feels like an old friend
2. Richard was bang on when he said the UOS tubes would be stiff. I’m 160lbs and this is a STIFF frame.
3. I’ll probably try some fatter tires and my preferred saddle - Pro Turnix Team - for a proper ride tomorrow

Here’s a pic of that True North, so you can see the geometry similarities




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Old 04-28-2024, 03:13 AM
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For when I want to get up to speed and stay there.

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Old 04-28-2024, 08:29 AM
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Minor hack / tip - this frame was built with Sachs ÜOS tubes, so the BB shell has cable guides instead of being drilled for a plastic thread-on unit. The drawback to Sachs' design is that metal cables ruin the paint. I ended up finding some 2.4mm heatshrink and fitting it to the cables to reduce the potential for paint damage. Seems to work like a charm.

Looks like a good solution. I might consider some protective tape on the BB also, for when the heatshrink wears through. Is it as durable as conventional housing liner?
Lovely bike, the seatstay tops it all off!
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Old 04-28-2024, 08:41 AM
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nice frame.
ps the shells are always sent out with lengths of plastic liners sized for the holes.






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Minor hack / tip - this frame was built with Sachs ÜOS tubes, so the BB shell has cable guides instead of being drilled for a plastic thread-on unit. The drawback to Sachs' design is that metal cables ruin the paint. I ended up finding some 2.4mm heatshrink and fitting it to the cables to reduce the potential for paint damage. Seems to work like a charm.

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Old 04-28-2024, 10:42 AM
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Very cool. I never really thought of the bike having multiple builder’s hands on it, but it’s a nice sentiment and makes the frame even more meaningful for me. There’s actually one other builder to add to that list, Hugh Black, of True North Cycles, since the geo was based off the last bike he made for me, 10 years ago.

I took the bike out for a quick spin around the block today and a few thoughts:

1. Paul nailed the geo - it feels like an old friend
2. Richard was bang on when he said the UOS tubes would be stiff. I’m 160lbs and this is a STIFF frame.
3. I’ll probably try some fatter tires and my preferred saddle - Pro Turnix Team - for a proper ride tomorrow

Here’s a pic of that True North, so you can see the geometry similarities




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What trail is that? That’s the Santa Monica Mountains? Sullivan?
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Old 04-28-2024, 10:55 AM
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"As usual with lugs, the angles of the frame and some of the specs were dictated by the lug castings so a few compromises had to be made to the design"

do you know how much the RL deviates from the other frame?

looks pretty sweet regardless
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Old 04-28-2024, 11:21 AM
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nice frame.
ps the shells are always sent out with lengths of plastic liners sized for the holes.
Interesting - I guess it was lost in the shuffle. Those tubes sat in my office/bike-junk room for months before I dropped them off with Paul. I'll keep an eye on the shrink and reach out for some spare liners?

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What trail is that? That’s the Santa Monica Mountains? Sullivan?
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"As usual with lugs, the angles of the frame and some of the specs were dictated by the lug castings so a few compromises had to be made to the design"

do you know how much the RL deviates from the other frame?

looks pretty sweet regardless
No idea at this point. A friend "borrowed" that bike ~7 years ago and conveniently forgot to return it :/
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Old 04-28-2024, 12:17 PM
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Any bike shop that deals with carbon bikes (so, most) should have a roll of cable liner that you can use to protect the BB.

In fact, I'd be happy to give you some from my shop stash. Just reach out if you're ever across the bridge.

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Old 04-28-2024, 12:35 PM
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I can’t beat that!!

I might hahahaha
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Old 04-28-2024, 01:05 PM
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What trail is that? That’s the Santa Monica Mountains? Sullivan?
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Distance is relative … that is a pretty long way from Sullivan for me, but I guess less so from the vantage of the Bay Area. I'm planning a ride on Rose Valley Road once they re-open 33 to bicycles.
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Old 04-28-2024, 01:50 PM
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Mostly together - some odds and ends to wrap up this weekend

Man this is sweet. Black CK headset is a good call with the tires already going with the yellow RL logo.
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Old 04-28-2024, 02:01 PM
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I would like to know more about this bike, its a stunning piece of art, perfect symmetry. Do you Know the builder, or a link to it, thanks in advance.

Steve.
Pegoretti Conic Responsorium -link to blog about frame, agree on symmetry
https://abovecategory.com/blogs/gall...c-responsorium
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Old 04-28-2024, 02:09 PM
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I would like to know more about this bike, its a stunning piece of art, perfect symmetry. Do you Know the builder, or a link to it, thanks in advance.

Steve.
owner has some good looking bikes. here is another, also a responsorium

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