The 'Un-Official' Campagnolo Ekar thread

[SpeedyChix]

Thanks for all the good info so far : ) Some promising leads!

[R3awak3n]

I mean they work with the other hydro campy so they will work with ekar, pretty sure its the same exact system.

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

I mean they work with the other hydro campy so they will work with ekar, pretty sure its the same exact system.

Oddly, the part numbers for the Ekar levers and the H11/H12 levers, they are different. We haven't been able to get a real answer on it though. But the small parts catalog shows different internal parts numbers.

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by Velocipede

Oddly, the part numbers for the Ekar levers and the H11/H12 levers, they are different. We haven't been able to get a real answer on it though. But the small parts catalog shows different internal parts numbers.

But arent the calipers of ekar identical to the h11?

[SpeedyChix]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

But arent the calipers of ekar identical to the h11?

Visually they are different, but the the pad pin looks to be in the same spot and internal design could be the same?

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

But arent the calipers of ekar identical to the h11?

They are supposed to be, and the internals in the levers are different. Which is why we questioned the fluid. Wondering if there was a serious difference and if the internals were interchangeable. We still haven't gotten a solid answer from anyone. Originally we were told everything would be 100% the same and then when things became real, there were differences and then the small parts catalog showed different numbers. And I don't know anyone whose had to take them apart yet so I have no idea what the difference is.

[Wangsanegara]

I managed to borrow 9-42T Ekar Cassette from a friend of mine and did a simple measurements.

I measured in several places and did some averaging. Also did measure distance between 2 teeth and subtract the thickness of the teeth. In my conclusion the Ekar Cassette Spacing is approximately 3.35mm.

See attached pictures.

A.W

[boywander]

Thanks @Wangsanegara for the measurements fotos.

[AngryScientist]

Originally Posted by boywander

Thanks @Wangsanegara for the measurements fotos.

agree. excellent resource and additions to this thread, thanks!

[AngryScientist]

any of our friends in the warmer weather regions get their hands on the ekar jerseys yet? they sure looks really nice IMO.

[jtakeda]

I tried searching the thread but came up blank. It mightve already been asked but anyone know if the Ekar Rear der would work with an 11 speed chorus shifter?

Having a clutch RD sounds nice to me but Ill live if it doesnt work.

11 speed shifter, 11 speed cassette, ekar rd

[Wangsanegara]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

agree. excellent resource and additions to this thread, thanks!

no worry, glad that I can help.

A.W

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by jtakeda

I tried searching the thread but came up blank. It mightve already been asked but anyone know if the Ekar Rear der would work with an 11 speed chorus shifter?

Having a clutch RD sounds nice to me but Ill live if it doesnt work.

11 speed shifter, 11 speed cassette, ekar rd

Doubt it but it is so new, and no individual EKAR rear ders available anywhere, unless some dude who is building an EKAR bike, slaps one on a 11s drivetrain to check.

Same for the RH EKAR lever. I'm betting it's just cable spool takeup dimensions coupled with rear der geometry=13s..But I donno.

[joevers]

Originally Posted by jtakeda

I tried searching the thread but came up blank. It mightve already been asked but anyone know if the Ekar Rear der would work with an 11 speed chorus shifter?

Discussed a while ago was the offset upper pulley, which makes it incompatible with 2x systems. It's the design of the derailleur, not necessarily the clutch but it doesn't look like it would mesh well with a front derailleur at all. Can't comment on the pull ratio, don't know much about campy

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Doubt it but it is so new, and no individual EKAR rear ders available anywhere, unless some dude who is building an EKAR bike, slaps one on a 11s drivetrain to check.

A very popular distributor I'm looking at has 25 individual rear derailleurs in stock.

[mistermo]

Originally Posted by Wangsanegara

A.W

Hi A.W., I tried to send a PM but it looks like you don't have that feature active. I'm impressed with your digital calipers and only have a cheap Harbor Freight set myself, producing inconsistent results. I see a set like yours on Amazon for $110-$150. I'm not an engineer and that's a bit pricey for something used recreationally. But I'd like to be able to do some of the analysis you did in this Ekar thread, myself. Any recommendations?

Apologies to you and others for asking this question in the Ekar thread.