Q: Why remove price when item is sold?

[gemship]

I like gauges of any kind faulty or realistic so I say leave the price as it's gauge. The more I think about the classifieds here I laugh at what I call the irony I used to scoff at. This place really is about the "bro deals" as it is about anything else. It's a great place to move items as an above poster would put it, to make room in the garage but maybe not so much to retain the most retail price paid value.

[jwess1234]

I personally dislike when the advertised price is removed and try to leave mine up. The advertised price is public and oftentimes may not reflect the purchase price, so I don't see the real harm leaving it up.

To go further, I have in at least one instance posted the selling price after the sale has gone through.

I don't get the logic of removing the list price unless you are siphoning equipment you're getting from a shop/team/connection on a special deal and are trying to prevent the connection from seeing you may be netting positive on the sales (I am guessing we have some of those folks here).

[Dale Alan]

Originally Posted by jwess1234

I personally dislike when the advertised price is removed and try to leave mine up. The advertised price is public and oftentimes may not reflect the purchase price, so I don't see the real harm leaving it up.

To go further, I have in at least one instance posted the selling price after the sale has gone through.

I don't get the logic of removing the list price unless you are siphoning equipment you're getting from a shop/team/connection on a special deal and are trying to prevent the connection from seeing you may be netting positive on the sales (I am guessing we have some of those folks here).

Great points right there. If you have nothing to hide,why hide?

[dave thompson]

Geez, this thread has taken weird directions, turning FS posts into a conspiracy theory or some nefarious plan.

The FS ad belongs to the seller, he/she may do with it as they please. Period.

[SoCalSteve]

Originally Posted by dave thompson

Geez, this thread has taken weird directions, turning FS posts into a conspiracy theory or some nefarious plan.

The FS ad belongs to the seller, he/she may do with it as they please. Period.

Well said, Senor Thompson!!!

[seanile]

Originally Posted by Dale Alan

If you have nothing to hide,why hide?

Originally Posted by dave thompson

The FS ad belongs to the seller, he/she may do with it as they please. Period.

well, this now has the fixings to quickly become a political/rights-to-privacy thread!
where's the popcorn emoji?

[Climb01742]

Originally Posted by dave thompson

Geez, this thread has taken weird directions, turning FS posts into a conspiracy theory or some nefarious plan.

The FS ad belongs to the seller, he/she may do with it as they please. Period.

I see it differently. Dave, what you describe is eBay. An every-seller-for-themselves marketplace. And look at its ethics. If that's the ethos folks want when they sell, then why not just go there? Why sell here?

What we have here is a community with a small commercial corner. With, I would hope, a larger sense of shared responsibility to each other. Where we try to help the whole while also moving some stuff we don't need anymore.

No one said anything about conspiracies or nefarious plans. That's your straw man.

As I said earlier, I'm for letting folks do as they wish, but that doesn't wallpaper over this: leaving prices helps others. Taking prices off helps the seller.

[Hilltopperny]

Originally Posted by Climb01742

I see it differently. Dave, what you describe is eBay. An every-seller-for-themselves marketplace. And look at its ethics. If that's the ethos folks want when they sell, then why not just go there? Why sell here?

What we have here is a community with a small commercial corner. With, I would hope, a larger sense of shared responsibility to each other. Where we try to help the whole while also moving some stuff we don't need anymore.

No one said anything about conspiracies or nefarious plans. That's your straw man.

As I said earlier, I'm for letting folks do as they wish, but that doesn't wallpaper over this: leaving prices helps others. Taking prices off helps the seller.

This guy kind of did imply a conspiracy
Originally Posted by Dale Alan View Post
When I see the price removed my first thought is the seller feels like they screwed somebody... Either in the past ,present, or plans to do it again in the future . Just my opinion of course,I believe in honesty and full disclosure. If a person feels good and honest about how they do business why hide anything ?

Not saying he is completely wrong, but I believe the majority of the folks on here who regularly buy, sell and trade aren't out trying to screw people over. It's a market to get rid of the stuff you aren't using. Most of the time it goes to those who can and will use it. There will always be a certain percentage of people who buy and sell stuff for profit afterward, but I believe that they are a limited bunch on this forum and I don't fault them for it.

Even if a person decides to flip an item purchased here is it really nefarious to do so? After all isn't the item going to get used now? What a person sells an item for is their business as well as the buyer. I like data and references as much as the rest of you, but it's always a bit skewed.

For instance I had my peg duende cross bike on ebay and a few days before the auction someone posted a palosanto frame with the same paint scheme for $575. A forum member took a chance and it was a scam. The same bike ends up on ebay again the day before my auction ends for $550 exact pictures as the other scam and it is marked by eBay as sold. If you take the time you will find out that this was also a scam, but I believe that my bike didn't sell because of it.

I may be wrong, but I know if I saw a very similar frame sell for much less than the one I'm about to buy then I would be put off by the legitimate sellers price and it would effect the sale.

I don't see a problem with leaving the price or removing it. I believe that it is between the buyer and the seller to determine though.

[Climb01742]

Originally Posted by Hilltopperny

I don't see a problem with leaving the price or removing it. I believe that it is between the buyer and the seller to determine though.

I realize that western civilization doesn't hang in the balance and don't want to beat this into the ground, but here's the one thing I do worry a bit about:

Our sense of community is what makes this place special and it's a fragile thing. By choosing to sell something here, versus someplace else, don't we accept a slightly broader sense of the greater good?

I'll leave it there. No one is the bad guy here. But we do have options where we sell stuff. The best we can, I hope we don't lose our sense of helping each other by not just sharing stuff but sharing information too.

[Dale Alan]

Originally Posted by climb01742

i realize that western civilization doesn't hang in the balance and don't want to beat this into the ground, but here's the one thing i do worry a bit about:

Our sense of community is what makes this place special and it's a fragile thing. By choosing to sell something here, versus someplace else, don't we accept a slightly broader sense of the greater good?

I'll leave it there. No one is the bad guy here. But we do have options where we sell stuff. The best we can, i hope we don't lose our sense of helping each other by not just sharing stuff but sharing information too.:d

+1

[Dale Alan]

I vote leave the prices up and post pics of actual items for sale,full disclosure keeps folks honest and helps prevent folks from getting mislead or screwed .Just my opinion of course.

[fuzzalow]

Too many variables in any sale to distill consistent pricing. But if you get into the ballpark, make a pricing decision and buy or sell. Get on with it, it won't be as critical to get or save that last $10.

I won't deny that some historical pricing might help but it is ultimately IMO a crutch. 30 seconds on eBay will get you the ballpark number.

I alway take down my price after a sale. My pricing is always low and not reflective of the market. I just want that stuff outta here.

[merckx]

I have done this. When an item has sold, I insert the word SOLD in the place where the sale price existed to eliminate any ambiguity about the availability of the product.

[rwsaunders]

If you're paranoid about sending money to a seller and you have a fear of being screwed, quite simply you shouldn't enter into the deal. Keeping a sale price up after the item is gone will do nothing to relieve your paranoia. I mark the ad sold, remove the price and remove the picture once the buyer acknowledges that all is good.

I have a few virtual friends that I buy and sell to here that I reach out to first when either I need something, or when I think that they might be interested in something. After that, I post to world and I have had nothing but great experiences here.

I do understand the perspective of keeping prices up being relevant to "consumer research", but linking the action to dishonesty and misleading people, that's quite a reach. Actually, I find statements like that to be insulting to the majority of the people who use the classifieds. Do you want to improve the likelihood of not being screwed? Ask people to take better pictures.

[dave thompson]

Originally Posted by rwsaunders

If you're paranoid about sending money to a seller and you have a fear of being screwed, quite simply you shouldn't enter into the deal. Keeping a sale price up after the item is gone will do nothing to relieve your paranoia. I mark the ad sold, remove the price and remove the picture once the buyer acknowledges that all is good.

I have a few virtual friends that I buy and sell to here that I reach out to first when either I need something, or when I think that they might be interested in something. After that, I post to world and I have had nothing but great experiences here.

I do understand the perspective of keeping prices up being relevant to "consumer research", but linking the action to dishonesty and misleading people, that's quite a reach. Actually, I find statements like that to be insulting to the majority of the people who use the classifieds. Do you want to improve the likelihood of not being screwed? Ask people to take better pictures.

Thank you Bob. Clear and concise.