Look 585

[robt57]

Originally Posted by nachetetm

I was so close to get one of those a month ago... I got cold feet when I saw the headtube lenght and I thought it was to racy for me, but gosh those are beautiful frames.

IIRC, the Origins have the lower stack

[paredown]

Originally Posted by robt57

IIRC, the Origins have the lower stack

Yes--IIRC they had the same stack height as the original frames, and then they added the higher stack height (shorter TT and taller HT) "Optimum".

Ultra geo was the same as the Origin/original frames but was 15 percent stiffer with a different carbon weave.

https://road.cc/content/review/19795-look-optimum-585

[nachetetm]

I need an Optimum. Unfortunately, all of them are painted, what a pity.

[Keith A]

Originally Posted by nachetetm

I need an Optimum. Unfortunately, all of them are painted, what a pity.

If you're a tall guy, there's a nice Optimum on the 'bay now...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Look-585-Op...0AAOSwq4Veqyad

[robt57]

Originally Posted by paredown

Yes--IIRC they had the same stack height as the original frames, and then they added the higher stack height (shorter TT and taller HT) "Optimum".

Rule it right out for me. I got a slammed stem on my XL, and would not mind a little more top tube. Nothing Stem and/or bar reach can't make perfect...

Well really only almost slammed, the headset top part is tall tapered cone. But that looks nice to for the transition to the stem visually.

[DfCas]

Originally Posted by Keith A

If you're a tall guy, there's a nice Optimum on the 'bay now...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Look-585-Op...0AAOSwq4Veqyad

Somethings wrong with that listing size specs. My XXL ORIGIN has a 199 headtube and a 58.7 top tube. I suspect they pulled those numbers off the wrong geometry chart if that is an OPTIMUM, instead of measuring the bike.

[dave thompson]

Here’s the geo chart for the Optimum. The pic is of mine, an XXL.

[flying]

And here is a chart for regular 585

Having them both here might help some looking to buy a used frame

[Hawker]

Great thread, I just stumbled across it.

I have two bikes; a Serotta Fierte iT and '08 LOOK 585. Both 48-49cm and both very light. I generally ride one for three for four days and then switch to the other. However, for the last three weeks I was only on the Serotta as I was doing some upgrades on the LOOK. So, when after three weeks I switched over to the 585 I think I actually smiled for the first few pedal spokes. I could tell immediately that is was lighter, smoother and more responsive. I love them both but I REALLY LOVE the 585. And I always keep my eyes out for another XS Optimum in any color other than black.

[d_douglas]

That is a very cool example. My size, I need to come for a visit!!

Originally Posted by robt57

[Hawker]

Just in case; There is a grey one listed in San Jose and a red one listed in Orange County....both on CL. I'd be all over both of them if they were my size. Sigh, I hate being short.

[paredown]

If anyone stumbles across a Large in the custom orange color, shoot me PM!

They called it "Tangerine"

https://forums.thepaceline.net/attac...1&d=1589464078

[Shoeman]

Originally Posted by paredown

If anyone stumbles across a Large in the custom orange color, shoot me PM!

They called it "Tangerine"

https://forums.thepaceline.net/attac...1&d=1589464078

I could use a minty XL if you know of one.

[robt57]

I do like that Tangerine...

[weisan]

Originally Posted by Dino Suegiù

Am I mis-remembering or was there also a well-regarded Cyfac equivalent to the Look 585 and Time VXR, a sort of French "Holy Trinity" of top-shelf lugged carbon?

Cadence