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Old 12-30-2013, 06:25 PM
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The question is if the standard is going to 135 in the rear? But with steel, it can always be cold set.

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Old 12-30-2013, 06:39 PM
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If it was my order I would make sure the braze-tab allows for both std and compact FD.

You may not need or want a compact NOW based on your fitness, age and location but those things can change over time. especially age and fitness....

I like the look of a braze-on tab on a classic bike too.

Ability to accept a compact might impact resale or travel options too, should that ever happen.

I get that its nice to have the FD centered on the tab. but, IMHO thats an aesthetic you care about on day one and dont care about after you;'ve had the bike awhile. NO ONE will look at your bike and care how the FD is centered on the tab. NO ONE.

in fact, i guess I will go look at mine now to see if centered or not...never thought about that really
* ok I looked. both bikes have compacts. lots of hills here. one FD is centered, the other at the bottom.

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Old 12-30-2013, 06:40 PM
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:04 PM
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It's tough to disagree with this advice. I am coming to about the same conclusion.
a std with a 29T cassette (39-29) is about the same as a compact with a 26T cassette (34-26)

the compact gets you that one lower gear (34-29), at the expense of the top end.

there has been a lot of discussion on this previously.

I have to say, I have not used my 34-29 in two years BUT I like having it because around here, you might end up doing a 5 mile 8-15% climb at mile 75 of a long day. Peace of mind to know there is one more gear. but thats me, not you.

I'd do this:
- frame: make sure your tab can accept compact for max flexibility
- grouppo: go with std and 12-27 - this sounds like a winner based on your feedback

Please post a pic when you get it done!
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:00 AM
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:35 AM
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Can someone perceive the state of the braze-on based on this photo of the work in progress?

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They're is no way of telling without some reference. Using the file as reference (one inch thick maybe?) it looks a little high, but really know why of knowing for sure.
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:44 AM
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Can someone perceive the state of the braze-on based on this photo of the work in progress?

Wow.

This is a kind of hilarious object lesson on the issues of using a frame builder with whom there are communication problems.

Of course, these things can occur with US-based English speaking builders almost as easily…

Sincerely hope this turns out well.
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:47 AM
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Using the BB as a guide it looks ok?
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Old 01-11-2014, 10:48 AM
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Looks in the right place to me...

Dont worry about that till you get the frame in your house. In the worse case scenario you can file 1 or 2 mm down to get a better adjustment but I doubt you might need to do that because so far the only bikes I know had that problem were the old steel colnagos from mid 80s, new ones dont have the issue I believe and even with those to file the boss is not like a super big deal.

There is a big chance the builder knows what he needs to do, as i said before the fix if you run onto the problem is not going to destroy the frame because is like a 5 mins fix that anybody can do. In the worse worse case scenario run 36 instead of a 34.

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Old 01-11-2014, 11:20 AM
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Sounds to me like you're overthinking this quite a bit..
+1 !!!!!!!

...the frame is built and brazed, there is nothing you can do at this point until you get it in your hands!!! If you are already finding potential flaws before you get the frame I can't imaging the level of obsessing you will engage once you have it and find the other inevitable flaws. All of the questions you are asking are points you should have addressed BEFORE sending out for a custom frame.

The only thing you can do now is wait until you get the frame, build it, ride the hell out of it, and enjoy!
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PS-don't forget to share pics with us once you receive it
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Old 01-11-2014, 11:30 AM
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+1 !!!!!!!

...the frame is built and brazed, there is nothing you can do at this point until you get it in your hands!!! If you are already finding potential flaws before you get the frame I can't imaging the level of obsessing you will engage once you have it and find the other inevitable flaws. All of the questions you are asking are points you should have addressed BEFORE sending out for a custom frame.

The only thing you can do now is wait until you get the frame, build it, ride the hell out of it, and enjoy!
Lou

PS-don't forget to share pics with us once you receive it
Jerrous, this is good advice. I'm somewhat obsessive myself, understand. Like Ultra said, five minute fix which I doubt you'll have to do.
Try to relax and enjoy this experience. I'm sure this builder knows what hes doing.
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Old 01-11-2014, 11:31 AM
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Old 01-12-2014, 08:11 AM
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Thanks, for the advice, guys. I'm really happy with everything. Just satisfying my curiosity.
So, who is the builder? Just curious. There are many, local, Italian frame builders still around...working in steel. That frame looks nice...horizontal dropouts, lugs, head badge, pretty.
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Old 01-12-2014, 08:24 AM
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I'm pretty sure I know who it is...Marnati.

Very much looking forward to seeing the finished bike - his work is beautiful.

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