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Old 09-24-2024, 09:54 PM
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He might be unhinged, but his Autism might be a factor.

What he is though is brilliant. He just gets things done - in all different fields. (...)
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Musk hate is so silly.
It's good to hear some positive sentiments. Let's look at the accomplishments:

1. Cofounded PayPal, an escrow company for secure online money transactions with over 400 million users.
2. Cofounded Tesla, first viable electric transportation manufacturer, disrupting the transportation industry to create a more sustainable future that avoids fossil fuels.
3. Cofounded Tesla Energy, solar power and large scale battery storage provider, eliminating the intermittency of wind and solar power, allowing wider adoption of renewable power generation.
4. Founded SpaceX, first viable commercialization of space, with nearly 400 successful launches with reusable spacecraft.

Any *one* of these would guarantee Musk a place among the great inventors and industrialists. I'm still a fan.

Not gonna buy no crypto, though...

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Old 09-24-2024, 11:13 PM
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If one searches on "how to buy a Tesla Token?" here's what you get:
1. Download a Trust Wallet Wallet.
2. Set up your Trust Wallet.
3. Buy SOL as Your Base Currency.
4. Send SOL From Binance to Your Crypto Wallet.
5. Choose a Decentralized Exchange (DEX)
6. Connect Your Wallet.
7. Trade Your SOL With the Coin You Want to Get.
8. If Nikola Tesla Token Doesn’t Appear, Find its Smart Contract
9. Apply the Swap
Are you serious? Talk about barriers to entry!

I had zero interest before, because...Musk...Now I have even less.
On the off chance that anyone was actually going to try to buy into this, I just want to make clear that this token (or any other Tesla related cryptocurrency/token/coin) has absolutely no affiliation to the actual company and should probably be avoided. It only takes a few clicks for someone to spin up a token like this on ETH/SOL and nearly all are jokes, scams or both. Nothing stopping me from deploying a contract for Campy Coin, Paceline Points, or $SHIMANO.

Tesla seem to be common targets for this type of impersonation scam (or 'tribute' as their creators would probably call them) but thats probably because Musk makes himself an easy target for it by regularly giving hat tips for 'doge coin' and other pyramid schemes, pump and dumps, and pointless currencies.

Anyways, stay away! Go buy the actual stock if you must.
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Old 09-25-2024, 05:27 AM
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It's good to hear some positive sentiments. Let's look at the accomplishments:

1. Created an escrow company for secure online money transactions with over 400 million users.
2. First viable electric transportation manufacturer, disrupting the transportation industry to create a more sustainable future that avoids fossil fuels.
3. Large scale battery electrical storage eliminated the intermittency of wind and solar power, allowing wider adoption of renewable power generation.
4. First viable commercialization of space, with nearly 400 successful launches with reusable spacecraft.

Any *one* of these would guarantee Musk a place among the great inventors and industrialists. I'm still a fan.

Not gonna buy no crypto, though...
I’m a fan of these achievements as well. I think the real genius behind the Tesla brand, and I have no idea if this was Musk or whomever on his team, is the Supercharger network. Classic chicken and egg situation. Without high-speed DC fast charging the brand never takes off. But build it and they will come. The other manufacturers still haven’t figured this out. The Tesla solution is incredibly seamless and has been in place and growing since the first Teslas hit the road.

My issue is his impulsiveness and his impulsive and occasionally offensive commentary on things that aren’t his business. I’ll leave it at that. And speaking of impulsive, Twitter is a shell of its former self. Not that I care because I’m not a user but the amount he paid for that and what it’s worth now doesn’t lead me to believe he’s as smart as he thinks he is.

But I’ll grant that someone at Tesla and Space X does impressive work. I don’t know how much of this is his vision and how much of it is the work of others, but both have been, as the word goes, disruptive.

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Old 09-25-2024, 05:34 AM
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Only if I can trade them for Schrute Bucks (or Stanley nickels)
Love it!
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Old 09-25-2024, 05:38 AM
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I always thought his super power was to eat at the trough of Gov subsidies while professing to be a true believe in Ayn Rand.

I can admire Henry Ford who started Ford Motor Co, the assembly line etc.
I can loathe Ford the owner and publisher of the Dearborn Independent.

Musk is the same.
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Old 09-25-2024, 06:08 AM
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I always thought his super power was to eat at the trough of Gov subsidies while professing to be a true believe in Ayn Rand.

I can admire Henry Ford who started Ford Motor Co, the assembly line etc.
I can loathe Ford the owner and publisher of the Dearborn Independent.

Musk is the same.
There are certainly parallels.
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Old 09-25-2024, 06:49 AM
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If one searches on "how to buy a Tesla Token?" here's what you get:
1. Download a Trust Wallet Wallet.
2. Set up your Trust Wallet.
3. Buy SOL as Your Base Currency.
4. Send SOL From Binance to Your Crypto Wallet.
5. Choose a Decentralized Exchange (DEX)
6. Connect Your Wallet.
7. Trade Your SOL With the Coin You Want to Get.
8. If Nikola Tesla Token Doesn’t Appear, Find its Smart Contract
9. Apply the Swap
Are you serious? Talk about barriers to entry!

I had zero interest before, because...Musk...Now I have even less.


I think the operative term here is "SOL"!
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Old 09-25-2024, 07:52 AM
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I consider Musk an unhinged lunatic; and reject anything that continues to line his pockets.
Glad this was said again..I'd rather walk than put any $ into that guy's pocket.
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Old 09-25-2024, 07:52 AM
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Old 09-25-2024, 07:55 AM
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I will admit that investing in some crypto scheme that may or may not be connected to Tesla (or anyone) is a silly idea. Now, tell me about all your buddies that made millions by doing it.

To paraphrase David Mamet:
“In a scam, if you can’t identify who the mark is, it’s probably you.”
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Old 09-25-2024, 07:57 AM
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Musk hate is so silly.
Many buying decisions are based on how you may like or not like the company/owner, their ethos, attitude, maybe even their politics.

I have that list, of products I wouldn't buy because of the above. Like it or don't....it exists, at least for me. You may find it silly but the above is what boycotts are all about.
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Old 09-25-2024, 08:00 AM
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It's good to hear some positive sentiments. Let's look at the accomplishments:

1. Created an escrow company for secure online money transactions with over 400 million users.
2. First viable electric transportation manufacturer, disrupting the transportation industry to create a more sustainable future that avoids fossil fuels.
3. Large scale battery electrical storage eliminated the intermittency of wind and solar power, allowing wider adoption of renewable power generation.
4. First viable commercialization of space, with nearly 400 successful launches with reusable spacecraft.

Any *one* of these would guarantee Musk a place among the great inventors and industrialists. I'm still a fan.

Not gonna buy no crypto, though...
Also throw in Starlink, the massive constellation of communication satellites. Then there’s the part about how they’ve launched the majority of everything in orbit, including all the launches done by governments around the world.
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Old 09-25-2024, 08:01 AM
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I always thought his super power was to eat at the trough of Gov subsidies while professing to be a true believe in Ayn Rand.

I can admire Henry Ford who started Ford Motor Co, the assembly line etc.
I can loathe Ford the owner and publisher of the Dearborn Independent.

Musk is the same.
Great example...
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Old 09-25-2024, 09:43 AM
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Also throw in Starlink, the massive constellation of communication satellites. Then there’s the part about how they’ve launched the majority of everything in orbit, including all the launches done by governments around the world.
And totally ruined the night sky with an endless stream of satellites.
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Old 09-25-2024, 01:50 PM
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And totally ruined the night sky with an endless stream of satellites.
You may be right. It reminds me of wind turbines and solar farms. Not a fan of either. And we want electricity to run the world (including electric cars).
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