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While I think something needs changing, I wasn't thrilled to hear that this bill was passed today as it's far too open ended.
As someone who played football for one of the biggest programs in the country (even though I was mostly just practice fodder for the starters and NFL-bound), I feel pretty qualified to offer an opinion here: I'm not for individual player endorsements as that has all kinds of individual-driven complications in a large team sport that are too hard to untangle. I AM all for some sort of compensation agreement between the school and athlete based on some combination of # of seasons/years with a binary-trigger bonus for graduation. I also believe compensation should be designed to enable something useful AFTER you leave school: pay off school debt, down payment on house, start investing, etc. Case in point: my alma mater's football program brings in roughly >$150M/yr and the athletic programs there in general top $200M with a $40M+ profit margin. So let's do simple math: say you set-up a fund where you could earn up to $50k if you compete at least 4 seasons and graduate (with decremented step-downs from there if you do less/don't graduate). You're talking about a $7M hit for a team of 140 players......and that's not an annual cost, as the team might turnover 30 players a year, so it's more like $1.5M annually with a 5yr turnover required for the full $7M. That's <1% of annual revenues. Heck, make it $100k....choose any number you want.....it's not making a dent for the large programs. Obviously things are more complicated for schools that don't bring in $150M/year in football revenue, but why shouldn't the NCAA step in to help? They generated $1B in revenue last year..... As an NCAA athlete I couldn't hold a job in college, got no official benefits (food, clothing, etc) beyond uniforms and warmups, and was typically busy with school or practice 12hrs a day for most of the year while the university made money hand over fist selling anything they could (or generating donations). It would've been nice to walk away with something to help start life for all that non-class/non-degree investment I put in for the school. CA's bill isn't perfect, but maybe it will finally force the NCAA to have a realistic dialog about options. Last edited by KJMUNC; 09-12-2019 at 03:36 PM. |
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how do you know any responses here are from "old white men"? i can think of 100 ways you could have presented an opinion on this matter without having to stoop to the level you did. you have earned a 2-week time out, since you should know better.
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and as a tangentially related issue, how many professors could be hired for the cost of just *one* of these guys?
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But the argument can be made that Saban and Meyer generate many times their salary in revenues for their schools.
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Too much money involved, although I agree. Let these athletes ‘major’ in their sport instead of the BS about ‘student athletes’. If they want to take other classes, let them but recognize it for what it is, minor league farm teams training for the pros.
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Let's be honest here - athletics is only a small part of the problem. The whole college system is the US is a gigantic disaster.
Education is big business, and regardless of the fact that all d1 schools are "non-profit" - the majority of their decisions, whether athletic or academic, are driven by money. Until that changes, we'll continue to have ballooning student debt which will drive the US into an absolutely massive recession. |
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And what about banning the guy who called my thread a "mess" and insulted weird people (we're a class!) https://forums.thepaceline.net/showp...&postcount=128 https://forums.thepaceline.net/showp...&postcount=156 Last edited by beeatnik; 09-12-2019 at 08:22 PM. |
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The rest of the world sends its best and brightest to the United States for higher education, and our system is a disaster? I'm genuinely confused.
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Burden of proof is on you to substantiate that claim.
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"you have earned a 2-week time out, since you should know better."
This is a bit harsh and unwarranted, IMHO |
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I'm totally mystified. You think our system is a disaster? How so? And you don't think the brightest young people come from around the world to study at American colleges and universities? Also, are we in court now? There's a burden of proof that must be met by the...wait, who?
All kidding aside, here are two questions: how's our system a disaster (I well might agree with you)? And do you think people who have the means from around the world don't come to the United States for higher education? |
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