What are you thinking, CYCLING RELATED, on tariff subject

[redir]

Money in the bank or under a mattress will be worthless, it's stocks and bitcoin for me

With those profits I would love to buy a custom steel frame some day.

BTW, fun fact, "what are tariffs" was one of the leading trending Google searches right after the election. Sadly, again. those who least understand it yet voted for it again will be hurt the most, even on Wal-Mart bikes

[jimcav]

I’m blessed to have a nice at home job so don’t care about the price of gas, or eggs for that matter. I do buy lots of bike stuff. However, used whenever possible and then it's usually off an internet search for best price. The campaign talk of a pretty wide blanket tariff on imported goods will impact lots of household budgets, not just bikes. Luckily, I’m on rim brakes and 11-speed and good deals keep popping up here and on eBay. Hope that continues

[Fat Cat]

Originally Posted by jamesdak

Yawn....

**** happens life goes on. I've heard too many rants over the last week about what's going to happen to even care.

It may take a short while, but you will. Be interesting to know how it goes for you.

[nmrt]

I think your comment just took the cat out of the bag.

Originally Posted by jamesdak

Yawn....

**** happens life goes on. I've heard too many rants over the last week about what's going to happen to even care.

[jamesdak]

Originally Posted by nmrt

I think your comment just took the cat out of the bag.

?? What are you talking about? And I'm totally blaming you for my cat puking all over the carpet just as I read this. No kidding, LOL!

[jamesdak]

Originally Posted by Fat Cat

It may take a short while, but you will. Be interesting to know how it goes for you.

Strange.....I've always seemed to do just fine no matter what. Decade after decade after decade. I can't get excited about other's speculation.

[jamesdak]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

It's possible the US market does need a reset and reminder that buying a quality product once beats buying crap and disposing of it over and over.

This x100. I don't get this mindset. I hang on to things forever if they still work. Yet my kids are always chucking and buying new, even if there's nothing wrong with the item. Heck I still have, and occasionally use, the down winter jacket my stepdad bought me while I was in high school in the 80's. My main cold weather jacket is sheepskin I got in Germany in the 80's. My adult kids by new stuff like that dang near every year while chucking out the other perfectly serviceable item.

I get frustrated with the perceived and real lack of quality with way too many products these days.

Maybe I'm an old man shouting at the clouds but it seems like so much stuff today is just designed to fail, not last.

[Wakatel_Luum]

Originally Posted by jamesdak

This x100. I don't get this mindset. I hang on to things forever if they still work. Yet my kids are always chucking and buying new, even if there's nothing wrong with the item. Heck I still have, and occasionally use, the down winter jacket my stepdad bought me while I was in high school in the 80's. My main cold weather jacket is sheepskin I got in Germany in the 80's. My adult kids by new stuff like that dang near every year while chucking out the other perfectly serviceable item.

I get frustrated with the perceived and real lack of quality with way too many products these days.

Maybe I'm an old man shouting at the clouds but it seems like so much stuff today is just designed to fail, not last.

It's called consumerism...

2. The theory that a progressively greater consumption of goods is economically beneficial.

3. Attachment to materialistic values or possessions.

[Mr.Appa]

I get frustrated with the perceived and real lack of quality with way too many products these days.

Maybe I'm an old man shouting at the clouds but it seems like so much stuff today is just designed to fail, not last.

I guess it's sorta like getting a shimano BB vs. a Chris King one? The CK will cost 10 times the shimano, and would hopefully last 10x.

My millenial experience always has to bring up the price of housing vs. our income. In my own life over the past 15 years its varied from infinite (yay college), to 40% at the highest with roommates, down to 20% at the lowest (but that was because my landlord didn't raise rent all through covid while I got a nice pay bump)...all that to say, it doesn't leave much room for buying the $200BB when the $20 does just as well and gets us there, even if it might crap out in 2 years instead of 10. I'm now finally at 36% which I guess is what the recommended amount is?

Anywho, I agree we should get less crappy stuff, but it's hard to justify the quality product over the "it gets it done" product when money is tight.

[El Chaba]

Nobody has seen the final plan so where all of this goes is just conjecture at this point. From what has been discussed, the duty on European cycling products will likely change little if at all while we can expect an increase on products from China. The raw material costs for American products may go up if the source is Chinese. I don’t see much of a downside.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by fourflys

not trying to take this there, but as a middle-aged straight white guy doing pretty ok, I'm probably going to be ok.. but I have family members who are in groups that will certainly be targeted with certain laws, etc.. so it's not really "yawn" for a lot of people.. a lot of folks are really scared and have a LOT of reasons to be..

Agree with that. Let's hope a lot of it is typical rally bluster to keep a vocal group happy but won't be reality..and if it is, the backlash will become evident in 2026 midterms.

But going to be a bumpy 4 years...

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by jamesdak

Scared of Tariffs?? I don't get it. Normal give and take that has been going on forever.

Not trying to speak for him but I don't think he's talking about tariffs..

[AngryScientist]

Originally Posted by El Chaba

The raw material costs for American products may go up if the source is Chinese. .

Right.

I'm no economist, but in a global economy, this could be very convoluted.

Off the top of my head, I think carbon wheels.

A company like Boyd who makes carbon fiber wheels here in the US should in theory benefit from a heavy tariff on chinese goods, making his offerings look better than BTLOS...

But if his manufacturing costs go way up because the raw materials cost go way up, he's back to square one.

Now if he instead makes his wheels in a factory in Romania and then imports them to the US...

An oversimplification for sure, but until a new policy is developed and implemented, I dont think we have any idea how most bike parts will be effected for certain.

[mdeth1313]

I wouldn't care so much if the "name brands" for carbon wheels would offer stuff that isn't overpriced AND overweight. I'm sorry - enve wheels are absolute garbage to me at this point - even boyds are way heavier than they need to be. I'll stick with my farsports wheels, if I have to pay more, that's ok, I can't get anything of that quality & weight here.

[jamesdak]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Not trying to speak for him but I don't think he's talking about tariffs..

So....he's trying to skirt the rules about political discussions? No one here would do that.