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Old 01-02-2023, 11:24 AM
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Thanks for that.

Anyone that attempts to simplify Zoltan Poszar's writing is worth a read, IMO.
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Old 01-02-2023, 11:49 AM
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The spike in inflation seems to me to have co-incided with the spike of gas prices to ~ $6/gal, and now that Gas is ~$3.50, I'm expecting to see a dramatic drop in inflation reports soon. "Oil gets into everything"

I could be wrong, and probably am
It’s wages (wage growth specifically)that is driving inflation: it’s why Jerome keeps talking about the JOLTS report and the 2 to 1 ratio.


Which sadly is needed- but don’t fight the Fed.
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Old 01-02-2023, 12:44 PM
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That is a very interesting read, even if some of it is over my head. There are clearly major developments occurring that will lessen or even end the US's economic primacy. Do you think there are any people in the Federal government who understand this, and who have some focus and ideas about addressing it?


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FWIW, a former colleague of mine recently retired and has been publishing a newsletter called Perspective on Risk. It's free to subscribe and no ads, he writes to keep busy and just being a curious fellow. Brian is a former NY Fed official (during the GFC) and later we worked together at AIG's Enterprise Risk Management (he was a chief investment risk officer).

Brian is a free thinker and covers many current topics. It's a fun read, if you are into investment and business.
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It’s wages (wage growth specifically)that is driving inflation: it’s why Jerome keeps talking about the JOLTS report and the 2 to 1 ratio.


Which sadly is needed- but don’t fight the Fed.



Our perception of high frequency items (gas for the car, food at the store) can skew our perception of what is really happening with inflation.

The chart above just splits CPI into Energy, Commodity, Food and Services.

You can see a lot of the increase of energy and commodity prices have come out of the market. The next remaining two- Food and Services are remaining strong. Shelter is in Services as Rent Equivalent, it remains strong.

Oil is creeping back up. If the China reopening does increase price pressure for more commodities, you could see inflation remain stickier here. This is not really in expectations for the coming year. The FED also prefers PCE Core as Opposed to CPI Core. The simplest way to think of the difference is PCE is the prices sellers are asking, and CPI is what consumers say they are paying.

The UK is already in recessionary stall with still high inflation being the classic definition of stagflation. Unions across Transportation, Mail, Nursing and others are all striking for higher pay.

If the US follows this path, it will be interesting to see that the FED does if confronted with stagflation. I think most of the EU will also be in stagflation in early 2023.

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Your "remain strong' certainly isn't where 80% of the people slugging day to day to pay for rent or mortgage this is definition of "strong"
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That is a very interesting read, even if some of it is over my head. There are clearly major developments occurring that will lessen or even end the US's economic primacy. Do you think there are any people in the Federal government who understand this, and who have some focus and ideas about addressing it?
Economics has gotten very complicated with the expansion of global trade, growth of financial firms and intermediaries, etc. And investor behavior is human nature - unpredictable at times (e.g. investors rushing into US dollar and Treasuries during the Financial Crisis when the US was the center of the storm - still deemed to be the safest haven).

As for macro predictions, Howard Marks of Oaktree dedicated one of his investor letters on why he doesn’t make bets on economic predictions. That’s especially true now when the biggest wildcard is inflation – a phenomenon no one fully understands. It's a good read.
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Cool Re: Howard Marks/Oaktree

Great read indeed. Nice.

If Powell can't break the inflation fever, it's going to be a long long few years. Thank God for Makers Mark.
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I read Ray Dalio's book "Principles for Dealing with the Changing World Order", which reviews the last 500 years of rising and falling of empires. His prediction seems to follow that of the newsletter linked by Vertical Doug. China is on the rise, while US is declining. The aggressive moves by China to deal in the yuan, consolidation of fossil fuel contracts, and development of metals needed in renewables seems to support this. The Chinese are also rattling sabers over Taiwan, which, if I understand correctly, produces the bulk of microchips (and which the US is belatedly trying to bring 'in house'). Xi is embroiled in his own Covid fiasco, which appears to be a threat to his tenure, but the general trend seems to be unfavorable to the US. Dalio says that as nations decline, there is usually social instability, followed by some sort of major economic and societal 'correction'.
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Your "remain strong' certainly isn't where 80% of the people slugging day to day to pay for rent or mortgage this is definition of "strong"
No one disagrees with people are struggling, but the fact remains prices remain firm. Maybe demand cliffs at some point, but we haven't reached that point yet. WaPo has a long feature on Starwood Capital Group. And Starwood is just a minnow compared to Blackstone.

This highlights the change in dynamics with rents with the large private equity firms in place.



Probably as good a read on what is happening and why with rents

Rising Rents Were a Crisis for Tenants. For Starwood, They Were a Gift.
2023-01-02 16:30:10.32 GMT

By Peter Whoriskey

(Washington Post) -- For tenants across the country, the huge rent hikes of
recent years have been a burden. For the private investment firms emerging as
America's landlords, they've been a bonanza.

Amid a flurry of sales over the past decade, when more than $1 trillion of
apartment buildings changed hands, private investors and real estate trusts
went on a binge: The proportion of apartments sold to them rose from 44
percent in 2011 to 70 percent in early 2022, according to data and research
firm MSCI.

Many of those same firms imposed aggressive rent increases and rode the
historic wave of rent hikes to big profits.

Few, however, stood to benefit more than Starwood Capital Group.

A private investment firm led by Florida billionaire Barry Sternlicht,
Starwood has been one of the most active acquirers of apartments, and a model
for the industry. Over the past seven years, it has amassed a portfolio of
more than 115,000 apartments, which by some rankings stands as the nation's
largest such collection.

Private firms rarely disclose specific information about rent hikes, but
according to leases reviewed by The Washington Post, prices at some Starwood
complexes increased by 30 percent or more annually.

At Starwood's Estates at Wellington Green in Palm Beach County, Fla., the
company raised some rents by as much as 52 percent in 2022; at the Griffin
Apartments in Scottsdale, Ariz., it increased them by 35 percent over the same
period. At the Cove at Boynton Beach in Florida, it boosted rents on some
units by as much as 93 percent in 2022.

At some Starwood apartment complexes intended for low-income tenants and built
with government subsidies, the company increased rents by 10 percent. Though
the rents on such units are limited by Department of Housing and Urban
Development guidelines, the company began charging higher rent soon after the
government lifted the limits, even for tenants who were mid-lease.

"Tenants seem capable and willing to pay these rent increases," Sternlicht
said in early 2022 in a call with investors. "I think this is the strongest
real estate market I've seen in 30 years, 35 years."

While Starwood says its prices merely reflect market forces and its own rising
costs, the growing role of private investors among the nation's apartment
landlords coincides with a historic wave of rent hikes.

In 2021, rent increases were more than double what they had been any previous
year, according to the Yardi Matrix Multifamily National Report, with asking
rents jumping by 10 percent or more in 26 major metropolitan areas. The
increases continued through at least October 2022, when rents were rising
about 8 percent annually.

"When they said my rent was going up, I was like, 'What in the world?'" said
Sakeema Rainner, 29, who with her four children rented a
government-subsidized, Starwood-owned West Palm Beach apartment where she said
the rent jumped about 10 percent in 2022. "They just don't care."

Starwood provided some figures to The Post showing that the company raised
rents at an average rate of 17 percent in its top 10 markets from January to
September 2022. By comparison, overall rents rose in those same markets at a
rate of about 12 percent over that period, according to numbers from CoStar,
the data firm, shared by Starwood.

The company raised rents more slowly than competitors in 2021, however,
according to the figures it provided: It boosted rents by an average of 6
percent while competitors in those markets raised rates by an average of 12
percent.

In a statement, the company said that it has a legal responsibility to reward
its investors and that it is "contending with record increases in operating
expenses and interest on our mortgages."

"Starwood is one of the world's premier real estate investors and owner of
apartment properties," the company said in its statement. "Our reputation is
extremely important to us both as an investor and a landlord, and it is
something we take very seriously. We would not have been able to grow and
maintain our portfolio at this size if we acted differently than any other
landlord in this space."

Tenants

Contrary to Sternlicht's assessment that tenants are "capable and willing" to
pay more, those at several Florida apartment complexes owned by Starwood
affiliates said they are struggling to pay the higher rates.

Of 20 people interviewed across four complexes in Palm Beach County, where
rent hikes have been particularly sharp, all said they felt a pinch from
increases that ranged from $100 to $1,363 more per month. Many were people of
modest incomes. Some work two jobs. Among them were home health aides, a pool
cleaner, security guards, warehouse employees and restaurant workers.

Veronica Stevens, 38, a worker at a cannabis dispensary, and her 17-year-old
daughter share a two-bedroom apartment at the Cove at Boynton Beach, a
Starwood property. Their rent is rising from less than $1,500 to $2,070 per
month, she said, an increase of about 40 percent. Stevens and her daughter no
longer dine out occasionally at Red Lobster or Chili's as a result, and she is
looking for a second job.

Robert Passaretti, 35, a restaurant server, said his rent at Starwood's
Reserve at Ashley Lake in Boynton Beach rose from $1,350 monthly to $2,050. He
is thinking about leaving the state.

"It's crazy," he said. "All of a sudden I'm living paycheck to paycheck."

Some families said they were forced into difficult downsizings: Couples with
children moved from two-bedroom to one-bedroom apartments even though, as one
father said, "we're tripping over each other." Another family with three
children had a two-bedroom at the Reserve at Ashley Lake. A few months ago,
they got a notice that the rent would be rising from $1,600 to $2,000 per
month, they said. They moved in with a family member.

"We're trying to save to get out of the cycle," said the father, an immigrant
from Haiti who sells life insurance, who spoke on the condition of anonymity
to maintain his privacy. "The rents are never going to come down. We want to
buy a house."

Even at Starwood's government-subsidized complexes, managers imposed rent
increases of as much as 10 percent, according to leases reviewed by The Post.

Parkside Residences in West Palm Beach, for example, was built in 1996 with a
low-interest state loan of $1.9 million and $800,000 in a tax credit subsidy,
according to the Shimberg Center at the University of Florida. In return for
the government subsidy, the owners of the property are obliged to keep rents
below levels set by the federal government. Starwood Real Estate Income Trust
bought the 144-unit property in 2020 for nearly $14 million.

On the last day of April 2022, it informed residents that their rents would
jump by about 10 percent on June 1 — even if they were in the middle of their
lease. A clause in the lease paperwork allowed the company to raise the rent
as soon as HUD changed the maximum landlords are allowed to charge.

"They say it's low-income but it's so expensive," said a 66-year-old nursing
aide from Jamaica who splits an apartment with a friend from church and spoke
on the condition of anonymity for fear of angering property managers. "They
don't care."

A few doors down, Rainner and her four children share a three-bedroom
apartment. They got the notice of the rent hike, too. But worse than the
higher price, she said, is what she is paying for. For months, a leaky air
conditioner has left large puddles in her living room every day and inundated
the carpet in her bedroom. On a visit in October, the bedroom rug squished
underfoot like a wet sponge. She said the mold that results causes her kids to
cough.

"I call the office and no one answers," she said.

Other affordable rental complexes owned by Starwood have drawn complaints
about maintenance, too, according to local news reports: Tenants of the Nolen
Grand complex for older residents in Dallas said the elevator was out of
service for three weeks, leaving the frail to navigate flights of stairs with
their walkers; tenants at the Courtney Manor apartments near Orange Park,
Fla., said they were dealing with uncontrollable mold in their apartments; and
tenants at the Santora Villas apartments in Austin complained of broken
appliances and other maintenance issues.

Starwood attributed the elevator breakdown at the Nolen Grand to supply chain
shortages. It has resolved the problems at Courtney Manor and Santora Villas,
which the company said had been present when it purchased those properties.
The company declined to comment on individual tenants' situations.

"Like all property owners, our rental properties experience maintenance issues
from time to time," the company said in a statement. "However, we spend
millions every year to correct those issues and are proud of our track record
of addressing issues quickly and often times proactively to create a better
living environment for our tenants. To suggest our performance in this area is
somehow below industry standards by picking a few situations out of our
hundreds of thousands of leases we own and manage is an unfair representation
of how we conduct ourselves as a property owner."

Bigger companies, swifter hikes

While rising rents are often justified as a simple matter of supply and
demand, they are also the product of countless individual decisions by
landlords.

Among the most aggressive landlords, researchers and industry experts say, are
large investment groups that buy and sell apartments — especially those that
are not trying to build a brand or reputation as an apartment company.

"At large outfits that invest in unbranded apartments, it's just pure profit
maximization," said Russell James, a professor at Texas Tech's School of
Financial Planning who has studied tenant satisfaction at apartment buildings
owned by large ventures. "There is less incentive to do anything other than
charge the maximum amount."

The shorter-term time horizon puts pressure on owners to raise rents because
the price of a building often depends upon how much rent money it can produce.
The way executives are paid also encourages rent increases: The managers of
the investment firms often earn large fees based on profits, and those profits
can be fattened with higher rents.

These firms "have an incentive to raise rents as quickly as they can so that
they can get the next buyer to pay more," said Michael Brennan, chairman of
the Brennan Investment Group, a real estate firm, and director of the James A.
Graaskamp Center for Real Estate at the University of Wisconsin at Madison.
Other owners, he said, are "not as maniacally focused on getting the last
nickel as quickly as they can."

Starwood was founded in 1991 by Sternlicht and investment partner Bob Faith to
buy up apartment buildings after the savings and loan crisis. Today, its
apartment portfolio is ranked as one of the largest in the United States, and
it is just one piece of its global real estate empire: Starwood Capital Group
manages about $125 billion of investments around the world: hotels, land,
offices, industrial parks, apartments and mortgage-backed securities. Starwood
managers say they can shift among these varied investments quickly, similar to
the way a firm might trade stocks and bonds.

Starwood's biggest bet on apartments began five years ago, when it created a
venture called the Starwood Real Estate Income Trust. After soliciting
billions from investors, who were promised "regular, stable cash
distributions," it began assembling a varied real estate portfolio. Among
those purchases were dozens of apartment buildings with more than 65,000
units, according to Starwood documents.

How to set rents is one of the questions that divides landlords, particularly
for tenants already in the building when rents are rising. When the market
price of an apartment surges by 30 percent, it may be easy enough to ask new
tenants to pay the higher price — they haven't moved in yet and can take it or
leave it. But should a 30 percent increase be foisted on tenants that have
been living there for years?

A Starwood executive weighed the question at an industry event.

"We're an ownership level that likes to be assertive," Steve Lamberti, the
president of Starwood's property management division, Highmark Residential,
told the audience at an industry webcast that was sponsored by RealPage, a
company that provides software to property managers.

"Compassion is a word all of us need to think about," he said, but he added
that landlords should recognize that the prices for existing tenants should
"run pretty similar" to what the market is dictating.

"We're in a position now where occupancy is extremely strong and we are
pushing rents," he said during the webcast.

After The Post viewed the webcast and sought interviews with some of its
participants, RealPage removed the webcast from its public website. It later
said the webcast was removed at the request of a client.

Investors first

While apartment companies typically view tenants as their customers, the
investment firms buying up apartments typically cater first to investors. To
tenants, in fact, the investment firms that own their buildings often are
invisible: Most interviewed for this story had no idea that their landlord is
a Starwood affiliate.

Consider apartment ownership, for example, in Palm Beach County, where private
investment groups now own more than half of the 30 most valuable apartment
buildings — more than triple the number they owned 20 years ago, according to
property assessor records and Post research.

Rents in the county rose by more than 19 percent on lease renewals as of May,
according to data from RealPage, a rate that was almost twice the national
average. Nowhere in the country did they rise faster.

A representative for Starwood noted that some large public real estate trusts
— not just private investment groups — have raised rents by large amounts,
too.

Quarterly data shows Starwood raised rents at its South Florida properties by
about 21 percent in the 12 months ending in September. While the company
declined to say how much its rents rose at individual Palm Beach County
properties, The Post was able to determine rent increases from eviction files.
Each eviction file in Florida includes a copy of the lease. If an apartment
was the site of two evictions, it is possible to see how much the rent had
been increased between the two evictions. Some tenants also provided
information about how much their rents rose.

Some of the biggest jumps at Starwood properties happened, as might be
expected, after an apartment became vacant.

The lease for unit 306 at the Estates at Wellington Green apartments was
$1,603 per month in January 2022; five months later, the company was charging
$2,444, a 52 percent hike, according to the leases in the court files.

The lease for unit 938 at the Reserve at Ashley Lake apartments cost $1,296 in
March 2020; by October 2021, the price had jumped to $1,806, according to the
leases.

The hikes on renewed leases were generally smaller, but not always.

One 24-year-old tenant at the Cove at Boynton Beach saw her rent nearly double
in May from $1,464 to $2,827 as she shifted to a month-to-month lease,
according to court papers. The company filed for her eviction in late June,
saying she had failed to pay. In court papers, she wrote that she had paid for
her mother's funeral and was dealing with depression. She asked to be able to
stay and asked the judge for an emergency hearing. The eviction had been
ordered already. Her request was denied. She declined to comment for this
story.

Another tenant, who lives with his daughter in a two-bedroom apartments at the
Estates at Wellington Green, said he got a renewal notice that asked for a 24
percent increase — from $1,780 to $2,208. He spoke on the condition of
anonymity to not risk angering the company.

Edgar Enrique, a pool cleaner from Guatemala who shares with his wife a
1-bedroom at Starwood's Reserve at Ashley Lake, said his rent jumped from
$1,600 to $2,000.

"For me, it's not good," Enrique said. "Why does it cost $400 more now?"

Click Here to see the story as it appeared an the Washington Post website.

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Tesla stock is a weird stock, that is particularly disconnected from traditional fundamentals, so I would neither advocate for, nor argue against it from a pure stock price perspective.

In terms of a more fundamental approach to valuing it, I wouldn't touch it so long as it's valued at more than Toyota, and even that seems like a stretch. Is it plausible that Tesla will become the biggest and most profitable auto manufacturer? Maybe. Is it plausible that Tesla will become bigger and more profitable than every other auto manufacturer combined? I don't see a strong case for that. What's more likely, Tesla becoming bigger and more profitable then all other auto manufacturers combined, or Tesla going bankrupt?

Doesn't mean the stock price won't go up, but at this market cap, it's driven lot more on faith than finance.
I don't understand much about the stock market, but your answer makes a lot of sense to me. Thanks.
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The rent thing was a huge read, I didn't have time to read it all. As a landlord I can tell you that rent increases last year and this year were necessary for landlords to stay in business due to inflation.

Example; I had to put a roof on my house this year, I had my people who put roofs on my units do my home. About 3 years ago they quoted be $8,000 to do my roof, 10 of 2022 they quoted me 13,800, I was a bit shocked to say the least, so I called every roofer in town and the lowest cost I got from any of them was $19,000 with a low grade shingle, I got the highest grade shingle available where I live. But you can see that inflation alone accounted for over a $5,000 markup from my guys just in 3 years. Everything has gone up, salt I put in the softeners at my rentals went up $1.50 a bag, check out the price of lumber, drywall, etc. The guy who did my roof said the nails he uses in his guns went up $20 a roll. Cost of my insurance when up, as did the taxes on the properties. Landlords have no choice but to raise their rents, and if they live in a rent control state, they're losing money!

The rental business is a for profit business, without profit they can't stay in business, and if landlords are forced to sell, and every investor knows that they can't make money buying rentals no one will buy the properties and people will have to find different places to live at higher rental costs.

It's a bad situation, but this is what happens when presidents from the last Bush to Obama to Trump to Biden have all raised the national debt to levels that are very dangerous, and the only way to combat the interest rate is to print more currency which in turns raises inflation, either that or raise taxes! and when you think about it really hard, inflation is nothing more than taxes, they try to balance one over the other, doesn't matter which, what matters is votes, so inflation is more excuseable than taxes, but it all is the same.

And who gets punished financially for this mess the most? middle class does. The lower class get help for their rent, middle class cannot, thus when the rents go up the middle class take the hits.
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The average annual inflation rate fluctuates over time and through different time periods. For the 10 years between 2012 and 2021, the average inflation rate was 1.88%
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The dollar had an average inflation rate of 2.41% per year between 2000 and today,
THEN COVID, Russia's invasion and the disruption of supply chains and greedy CEOs, like the 'BigOil'...

Even under Clinton, fed government ran a surplus, the inflation was about 2.6%.
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The spike in inflation seems to me to have co-incided with the spike of gas prices to ~ $6/gal, and now that Gas is ~$3.50, I'm expecting to see a dramatic drop in inflation reports soon. "Oil gets into everything"

I could be wrong, and probably am
NYT: Inflation slowed last month thanks to cheaper fuel and airfares.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/01...-gas-discounts

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NYT: Inflation slowed last month thanks to cheaper fuel and airfares.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/01...-gas-discounts

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Fuel costs, labor costs, and corporate greed seem to me to be the over-simplified primary drivers for most of our increased prices. Only one of those has the ability to quickly improve.

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NYT: Inflation slowed last month thanks to cheaper fuel and airfares.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/01...-gas-discounts

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Crappy NYT headline.

Airfares affect such a small portion of the population, a 3% drop shouldn't even register on the CPI.


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https://www.bls.gov/cpi/factsheets/airline-fares.htm

0.481% of the market basket, so net impact of -0.01%?

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