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Old 12-29-2018, 10:32 AM
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on my 2016 GSW

I do believe inside the fuel door it suggests 87.

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Alright, for you motorheads..I have a 1.8l turbo..4Motion...octane? I use 85 here in CO..mid grade is 87, high test is 91...book says 'mid grade' but I have heard that's balderdash...PLUS midgrade is like $.30 more per gallon(gas around here right now about $2 per)...

so???
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Old 12-30-2018, 07:55 AM
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I do believe inside the fuel door it suggests 87.
I think might say 'mid grade'..and I've 'heard' that 'mid grade' in flat lander territory=lower grade for higher altitude plus many places says higher grade 'requirements' are a scam..Can't find a picture and too cold to go outside.

BUT if it says '87 octane' and I use '85 octane', am I hurting anything?
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Old 12-30-2018, 08:50 AM
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no clue

If no ping then prob ok.

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I think might say 'mid grade'..and I've 'heard' that 'mid grade' in flat lander territory=lower grade for higher altitude plus many places says higher grade 'requirements' are a scam..Can't find a picture and too cold to go outside.

BUT if it says '87 octane' and I use '85 octane', am I hurting anything?
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Old 01-06-2019, 01:17 PM
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Not in the market, but just looking around at VW dealerships today I'm seeing almost zero Alltracks on the lot, or Sportwagens either. Just about zip. Very strange.

Anyone know what's up with that?
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Old 01-06-2019, 01:24 PM
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They are not volume sellers so inventory is low, would be my guess.
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Old 01-06-2019, 01:40 PM
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Not in the market, but just looking around at VW dealerships today I'm seeing almost zero Alltracks on the lot, or Sportwagens either. Just about zip. Very strange.

Anyone know what's up with that?
Almost all the VW wagons are made to order as mentioned before since they're not volume sellers.

A close friend has seven of them through three different platform generations and has had to order every single one of them from the same dealer as they've never been kept in stock, especially for this exact specs

Best bet is if you don't want to wait do a nationwide search and then have it shipped. The only ones that'll be on dealer lots are cancelled orders so you might not get exactly what you want but it'll prob come a decent discount.
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Old 01-06-2019, 01:45 PM
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They are not volume sellers so inventory is low, would be my guess.
To decide on what octane fuel you really need run your tank quite low and then fill it 1/2 way with regular 85 or 87 octane and see if the engine pings. If so fill it to the top with premium 91-93 octane. If the pinging goes away on this 50/50 blend you are probably fine running mid-grade of 89 +/- octane. If it still pings you know you need to run premium.

OTOH some engines will adjust timing to suit the fuel being used so you can run lower octane fuel than would be ideal without damaging the engine but power and mileage will be reduced from what you would get running premium. Just remember that an engine designed and tuned for regular won't benefit from feeding it higher octane.
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Old 01-06-2019, 03:26 PM
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They are not volume sellers so inventory is low, would be my guess.
They sell in volume around here, local dealer had six new leftover 2018's on the lot last week, all SE's, all around $20K. Plus a base level model at less than $16K. Maybe not the exact color combo you want, but a great price.

Same dealer had zero 2019's in stock, and have seen few 2019's at other dealers as well, so perhaps they are just not here yet. Also am under the impression that they changed the motor for 2019 to a 1.4 turbo with about 30 fewer horsepower...and I'd rather have more (think Type R wagon like they sell i Europe) than less.

Re gasoline, I always put in the low level regular at Sunoco. Mine runs like a top, no ping, very happy motor.
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Old 01-06-2019, 03:32 PM
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Almost all the VW wagons are made to order as mentioned before since they're not volume sellers.

A close friend has seven of them through three different platform generations and has had to order every single one of them from the same dealer as they've never been kept in stock, especially for this exact specs

Best bet is if you don't want to wait do a nationwide search and then have it shipped. The only ones that'll be on dealer lots are cancelled orders so you might not get exactly what you want but it'll prob come a decent discount.
So, how are you supposed to do a test drive?

I've seen the same here. Hey, nice car, on my list, but, I want to touch and feel first.
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:05 PM
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Plus a base level model at less than $16K
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Old 01-06-2019, 04:27 PM
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Its been a great car so far.

I missed the snow a few months ago and we just got a dusting but I did not get to drive in it. So far the new snow tire setup have yet to see any fun.


Happy with the car, drives well, looks good... still wish I had got an R or a ford RS instead
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:19 AM
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To decide on what octane fuel you really need run your tank quite low and then fill it 1/2 way with regular 85 or 87 octane and see if the engine pings. If so fill it to the top with premium 91-93 octane. If the pinging goes away on this 50/50 blend you are probably fine running mid-grade of 89 +/- octane. If it still pings you know you need to run premium.

OTOH some engines will adjust timing to suit the fuel being used so you can run lower octane fuel than would be ideal without damaging the engine but power and mileage will be reduced from what you would get running premium. Just remember that an engine designed and tuned for regular won't benefit from feeding it higher octane.
I'm not sure where this discussion of fuel octane came up?

But, I'm pretty sure what you're describing doesn't work on modern engines. New engines will just make some adjustments reducing timing or something to avoid pings, so it will run fine but might have reduced power.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:36 AM
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Old 01-07-2019, 12:09 PM
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But this bit of info is really sad: Starting this year, BMW will no longer offer a wagon version of its 3-series sedan in the U.S., a vehicle that’s long been a paragon of the product.
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Old 01-07-2019, 05:20 PM
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And if Jalopnik is to be believed, VW is not planning on building a MK8 wagon.
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