The 'Un-Official' Campagnolo Ekar thread

[rain dogs]

That 1x 12 on pink jersey is a fully dodgy way to do business. This is trying to slip a fast one past the ill-informed or mis-informed who think 1x is some kind of "upgrade"

This isn't a 1x vs 2x debate, but unless the group has a wide/narrow chainring, a larger than those "standard" rear cassettes, and a derailleur with the capacity to handle said cassette (and ideally a clutch) that isn't a 1x system. It's a 2x system and pink jersey is #stealingyourbigring and #misleadingtheircustomers.

And that "carbon bash guard" is not just laughable, but down right "snake-oil". One "bash" and it'll be broken. Campagnolo should be/would be/will be furious with this.

[thirdgenbird]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

that's a goofy move.

i dont know if they are official campy dealers, but i imagine if campy HQ gets wind of them trying to sell a hacked chorus 1x12 group they might have something to say about that.

it looks like they are not even gutting the left shifter, so you have the paddle and button that are dead on one side?

i'm all for mixing components, but that's something an end user typically does, seems a little misleading advertising it as a group.

It’s worse than that. They list chorus with a 32, 34, or 36t ring. Unless they machined an adaptor, those rings won’t bolt to the crank without the big ring. If they did machine an adaptor (haha) the chain line is likely wrong. It looks like a photoshop and bad joke.

[madsciencenow]

Originally Posted by rain dogs

That 1x 12 on pink jersey is a fully dodgy way to do business. This is trying to slip a fast one past the ill-informed or mis-informed who think 1x is some kind of "upgrade"

This isn't a 1x vs 2x debate, but unless the group has a wide/narrow chainring, a larger than those "standard" rear cassettes, and a derailleur with the capacity to handle said cassette (and ideally a clutch) that isn't a 1x system. It's a 2x system and pink jersey is #stealingyourbigring and #misleadingtheircustomers.

And that "carbon bash guard" is not just laughable, but down right "snake-oil". One "bash" and it'll be broken. Campagnolo should be/would be/will be furious with this.

Agree this is a total head scratcher. Wonder how long this lasts? I also wonder where all the extra rings are going?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[mycle+m]

Official campy dealer, hacked chorus, fully dodgy, misleading and snake oil, really? They are pretty clear in stating that they "deleted the Front Derailleur and lost the ‘big ring". Is there a definition of what constitutes a 1x system? Personally, I love it, and leaving the left thumb shifter on the lever is great because it affords another riding position, with leverage. I have bought 3-4 Campagnolo groups from pinkjersey, and have always received exemplary service. I am still getting my EKAR group, but I think my next groupset will be the Super Record 1x12 Disc Brake for my gravel racer. #LOSETHEBIGRING. Ok, back on topic with EKAR, and counting the days.

[jpw]

[QUOTE=and leaving the left thumb shifter on the lever is great because it affords another riding position, with leverage. [/QUOTE]

I'm sorry, what does this mean?

[jpw]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

it looks like they are not even gutting the left shifter, so you have the paddle and button that are dead on one side?

Could it be reassigned? Dropper post perhaps?

[mycle+m]

[del.]

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

that's a goofy move.

i dont know if they are official campy dealers, but i imagine if campy HQ gets wind of them trying to sell a hacked chorus 1x12 group they might have something to say about that.

it looks like they are not even gutting the left shifter, so you have the paddle and button that are dead on one side?

i'm all for mixing components, but that's something an end user typically does, seems a little misleading advertising it as a group.

He is definitely NOT a authorized Campagnolo reseller..I know him..he deals with grey/black/out the back door stuff. Goes to Europe with a suitcase of Euros and buys stuff..

[thirdgenbird]

Originally Posted by mycle+m

[del.]

Have you asked them how they have addressed the chainline and missing BCD (Chorus) for their 1x12 offerings?

What brings you to PL? I hate to make assumptions, but all of our posts have been promotions for pinkjersey.

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

that's a goofy move.

i dont know if they are official campy dealers, but i imagine if campy HQ gets wind of them trying to sell a hacked chorus 1x12 group they might have something to say about that.

it looks like they are not even gutting the left shifter, so you have the paddle and button that are dead on one side?

i'm all for mixing components, but that's something an end user typically does, seems a little misleading advertising it as a group.

Yeah, they know about it. NOT happy.

That SR12 crankset, that's a $1000 cluster f right there. I mean, the "carbon bash guard", yeah, that's not a carbon bash guard.

[mycle+m]

No, just excited to share some Ekar resources. It seems most of you are connected in the industry, even posting under false pretense, and would rather take cheap shots at a retailer for thinking outside the box. I have done my research, even found Campagnolo praising dropping a chain ring, so I can catalog your comments as baseless, if not shameful. I have bought 9, 10, 11, 12 and now Ekar through pinkjersey, and as I have already stated the experience has been exemplary. I know they have relations with authorized distributors in the US because I got something drop-shipped once and saw the return label. I thought I would join in the Ekar fun, but obviously this thread and forum is a waste of time; ****ing morons. [I edited that from fools.]

[AngryScientist]

Originally Posted by mycle+m

but have never been on a forum. I have two times now, my first and last. You guys are fools; what waste of time.

well, welcome to the forum. not sure what you're so angry about, but please refrain from calling anyone, or worse, everyone - a fool.

[Velocipede]

Originally Posted by mycle+m

No, just excited to share some Ekar resources. It seems most of you are connected in the industry, even posting under false pretense, and would rather take cheap shots at a retailer for thinking outside the box. I have done my research, even found Campagnolo praising dropping a chain ring, so I can catalog your comments as baseless, if not shameful. I have bought 9, 10, 11, 12 and now Ekar through pinkjersey, and as I have already stated the experience has been exemplary. I know they have relations with authorized distributors in the US because I got something drop-shipped once and saw the return label. I thought I would join in the Ekar fun, but have never been on a forum. I have two times now, my first and last. You guys are fools; what waste of time.

I'm not sure about the posting under false pretenses comment but yes, I am in the industry and have been for 30+ years.

Yeah, Campy is praising a 1x system. But it's an actual fully designed 1x they created. I would be seriously wary of buying a crankset like the SR12 they show. That would be a very costly learning experience on what not to do.

Regarding the drop shipping thing, I work with Campy directly and they won't even drop ship. I only know of 1 that would and they only offered it once and it was a seriously out of the norm situation. They've never offered it since and we ended up not doing it after all. And this is a company I've worked with since 1992. I just had someone refuse to drop ship some bar tape to someone for a bike/magazine review. And that's someone in the industry, that's easily identified. And they still wouldn't do it. So I'm not sure how they get distributors to do it. But good for them if that's the case.

[thirdgenbird]

Originally Posted by mycle+m

No, just excited to share some Ekar resources. It seems most of you are connected in the industry, even posting under false pretense, and would rather take cheap shots at a retailer for thinking outside the box. I have done my research, even found Campagnolo praising dropping a chain ring, so I can catalog your comments as baseless, if not shameful. I have bought 9, 10, 11, 12 and now Ekar through pinkjersey, and as I have already stated the experience has been exemplary. I know they have relations with authorized distributors in the US because I got something drop-shipped once and saw the return label. I thought I would join in the Ekar fun, but have never been on a forum. I have two times now, my first and last. You guys are fools; what waste of time.

What outside the box thinking? Using 2x hardware in a 1x setup is a decades old idea. Pink Jersey didn’t need to package it that way for it to be a new thing.

I would also like to see a reference for Campagnolo supporting dropping a chainring on their 2x12 group. That’s a different thing than Ekar.

I am also waiting for a explanation on how a 32t ring can be bolted to a chorus crank arm without the large ring. The burden of proof is on you. Show is the research.

[AngryScientist]

Originally Posted by mycle+m

obviously this thread and forum is a waste of time; ****ing morons. [I edited that from fools.]

no problem, we will not waste any more of your time.