OT: sportwagen

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by rccardr

My 2017 Sportwagen SE gets 30+ mpg on the highway, averages 25 on a tank. Fits a 59cm road bike in the back without removing the front wheel. I can layer multiple bikes back there if necessary, but very easy to take a buddy riding.

SE tier has everything I want and nothing I don't. Reliable as a stump, fun to drive, plenty of power (and I've owned both an R32 and a MkIV GTI), looks pretty, comfortable on the road, great on ice and snow.

My local dealer has a half dozen new leftover 2018 SE's selling for right around $20K. I'd say that's a steal.

I agree. I love my sportwagen. Drives great, fits a lot of stuff, good looking, great gas mileage, 4motion is awesome. Power is good but I wish it had a bit more. Maybe APR stage I will wake it up a little bit.

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by notsew

I'd think a diesel would be better at sitting around than a gas car. Gas varnishes and gums things up over time. Diesel will sit around indefinitely. But in practice, if your filling up at least a couple times a year, this shouldn't matter at all.

I was just perusing the VW CPO website and you can get a 2012 Jetta TDI with 50k miles and an unlimited 2 year warranty (gas cars are only good for 24k miles) for like $12k. Seems like a steal to me. Really thinking about getting one - but honestly haven't really researched it.

Oh, and from my memory of owning one, the reason the oil changes are so much more is because the oil is super expensive.

I know,

I bet you there are upwards of a hundred and fifty 2011 - 2012 Jetta's in Chicagoland right now for sale in the $11,000 - $13,000 range with miles ranging from 30k to 75k Plus I can get USAA financing at 5% which seems solid for a car that old.

Is the oil that much more? Like 50% more or what?

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by C40_guy

We fill the Q7 just over once a month. With your driving requirements, you might only have to fill up on long trips. Diesel car will have a pretty good range...

Very good point.

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by YesNdeed

In that case, cheers to all my crazy wagon friends! 83K sensational miles and FAST accumulating more on my S4 Avant (2007).

I tried dearly to embed a pic, but it wouldn’t do it, so here it is for now.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Br82MQtn...d=3k9dqi4ikdvd

Like!

[charliedid]

Originally Posted by rccardr

My 2017 Sportwagen SE gets 30+ mpg on the highway, averages 25 on a tank. Fits a 59cm road bike in the back without removing the front wheel. I can layer multiple bikes back there if necessary, but very easy to take a buddy riding.

SE tier has everything I want and nothing I don't. Reliable as a stump, fun to drive, plenty of power (and I've owned both an R32 and a MkIV GTI), looks pretty, comfortable on the road, great on ice and snow.

My local dealer has a half dozen new leftover 2018 SE's selling for right around $20K. I'd say that's a steal.

Solid

My upper end is $15K and rather spend closer to $11K but we will see.

SE is gas right?

Thanks

[many_styles]

I really want a GSW w/ 4motion, but coming from my entire driving experience with Acura/Honda, hows VW reliability? Factory or extended warranty a must?

[thirdgenbird]

I’m three years into one vw and two years into the other. So far, it’s been nothing but consumables.

[many_styles]

Good to know. I was browsing other responses and they also mention how reliable they are. Over on the Vortex GSW forum, they don’t paint a pretty picture. Particularly, SEs with pano sun/moon roofs leaking and other issues.

[thirdgenbird]

Both of mine are a mk6. No sunroofs and no DSG so both are pretty simple. I do have a 2012 2.0t that supposedly has a questionable timing chain tensioner that I really should get replaced.

I fully expect the 2.0t to cost more than a more normal car but it’s worth it to me. The 2.5 5cyl is a pretty proven and reliable platform.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by ChainNoise

Might as well check in with a breif history..
94 Jetta GL
91 GTI 8v
97 Jetta GLX
90 Jetta VR6
87 Jetta GL
08 Passat 3.6 VR6 4mo Wagon
07 Audi A4Q
And my current 16 GSW 5spd

Pashaw
-61 Beetle
-67 Squareback
-73 Beetle(automatic stick shift!)
-76 Bus
-87 Vanagon Syncro(wish I still had that one)
-00 New Beetle(still have it..for grand daughter when she's 16..9years)
-13 TDI JSW
-17 GSW 'S' 4Motion

[ChainNoise]

Originally Posted by R3awak3n

I agree. I love my sportwagen. Drives great, fits a lot of stuff, good looking, great gas mileage, 4motion is awesome. Power is good but I wish it had a bit more. Maybe APR stage I will wake it up a little bit.

Might I suggest a burger Motorsports jb4 unit? It's a piggy back with multiple map options including stock map. You can change maps on the fly while driving, so if you have 93oct and an aggressive map 6 (map 6 is user customizable) but decide to go for a road trip and can only find 91 or 87, switch it back to stock through the app and Bam...no worries. You can usually find them for 400 with the Bluetooth kit used. Doesn't void warranty either, doesn't trip the TD1 trigger.

I usually get 35+mpg but I am fwd 5spd. 4mos are known for getting way less. If I keep my foot out of it 40mpg is attainable with the 1.8t

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by many_styles

I really want a GSW w/ 4motion, but coming from my entire driving experience with Acura/Honda, hows VW reliability? Factory or extended warranty a must?

BIG YMMV, my son had a Honda that was anything but reliable..I have had or have numerous VWs and haven't had any that were problematic. I have a 2017 GSW 'S', 4Motion now, 27,000 or so miles..no issues..I got the factory extended warranty for the free service gigs(no longer standard with VW) and because of the electronics.

I also have a 2000 New Beetle..original owner..only hickup was heater motor switch went south, headlights...very reliable..My 2013 TDI JSW, 60,000 miles, also no issues at all(part of the diesel-gate turnin)..

I usually get 35+mpg but I am fwd 5spd. 4mos are known for getting way less.

For right above..'S' 4Motion..consistently 28-30 mpg, mixed driving..

[R3awak3n]

Originally Posted by ChainNoise

Might I suggest a burger Motorsports jb4 unit? It's a piggy back with multiple map options including stock map. You can change maps on the fly while driving, so if you have 93oct and an aggressive map 6 (map 6 is user customizable) but decide to go for a road trip and can only find 91 or 87, switch it back to stock through the app and Bam...no worries. You can usually find them for 400 with the Bluetooth kit used. Doesn't void warranty either, doesn't trip the TD1 trigger.

I usually get 35+mpg but I am fwd 5spd. 4mos are known for getting way less. If I keep my foot out of it 40mpg is attainable with the 1.8t

I will look into it. I was going to go APR because I have heard nothing but good things. I honestly do like that I can swtich the map and run 87 usually and then go up to 93 when I want to have some fun

[oldpotatoe]

Alright, for you motorheads..I have a 1.8l turbo..4Motion...octane? I use 85 here in CO..mid grade is 87, high test is 91...book says 'mid grade' but I have heard that's balderdash...PLUS midgrade is like $.30 more per gallon(gas around here right now about $2 per)...

so???

[thirdgenbird]

I always use 87 in the 2.5 and 91 in the 2.0t

I have heard you can get by with lower octane at higher altitudes. This is supposedly why Colorado stations sell lower octane than elsewhere. We can’t get 85 here.



Here is the mk2 that has my attention:
https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/c...772349405.html