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Old 12-01-2018, 12:52 PM
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Finally got out for a ride today. Had to head into the valley a bit to find cleaner roads, but the sun was shining.

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Old 12-01-2018, 12:53 PM
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Old 12-01-2018, 01:56 PM
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Old 12-01-2018, 06:04 PM
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Another day in paradise.

Dirt Fat snow ride. Don't really need float on days like this.
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Old 12-02-2018, 09:33 AM
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Old 12-02-2018, 09:36 AM
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Another day in paradise.

Dirt Fat snow ride. Don't really need float on days like this.
I think I need something like this in my life! I really prefer drop bars to flat and I've always been curious about a build like this.

What frame is that and how does it handle compared to a flat bar fatty?

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Old 12-02-2018, 09:38 AM
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This being our second winter we are finally getting into the Minneapolis winter life. Even my Venezuelan wife who brings a sweatshirt when it's 80°F out. She took Kirby out for a run while my son and I went out on bikes.

After, Kirby was so tired he couldn't even make it to the big dog bed.

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Old 12-02-2018, 09:47 AM
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I think I need something like this in my life! I really prefer drop bars to flat and I've always been curious about a build like this.

What frame is that and how does it handle compared to a flat bar fatty?

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x2!

I've often wondered how a fat drop bike would ride.

Matt Appleman brought a drop 27.5+ to various CX races this past season and I was in LOVE with that bike!

On second look it seems like it may clear fat tires too. The plot thickens.

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Old 12-02-2018, 10:19 AM
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x2!

I've often wondered how a fat drop bike would ride.

Matt Appleman brought a drop 27.5+ to various CX races this past season and I was in LOVE with that bike!

On second look it seems like it may clear fat tires too. The plot thickens.

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Pretty sure he had that bike at NAHBS. It was definitely one of the many bikes there that left a lasting impression on me. Very nice!

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Old 12-02-2018, 11:09 AM
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Old 12-03-2018, 09:27 AM
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Old 12-03-2018, 11:34 AM
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Pretty sure he had that bike at NAHBS. It was definitely one of the many bikes there that left a lasting impression on me. Very nice!

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Yes. he did have it at NAHBS this year and it does clear full fat IIRC.

Always good to talk to Matt at the show even if he is just a couple miles down the trail from me in town. He really does great work.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:04 PM
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I think I need something like this in my life! I really prefer drop bars to flat and I've always been curious about a build like this.

What frame is that and how does it handle compared to a flat bar fatty?

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That is my Clockwork Bikes Drop Bar Dirt Fat. Built locally in Minneapolis by Joel.

The more detailed build story is here:

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showt...ight=clockwork

However, I would say that the handling and bar styles are really different aspects. This one rides different from a typical Fat not primarily because of the drops but primarily because of the geometry. I have been riding a Fatback for 9 seasons now and this Clockwork is a very different bike in every way.

The bike was built more like a tight rigid 29er for singletrack so CS lengths are shorter, front center is shorter and the front end is more slack for being able to attack descents as aggressively as climbs.

That aside, why drops if the geometry really defines the ride?

- I ride really tight Midwest singletrack and I get plenty of leverage with a drop bar with 90mm stem and this allows me to rip tight trails at high speed without worrying about clipping my bars.

- While I think Woodchippers are the best off road drop bar EVER IMHO, I also only set them up for drop only riding. For these I wanted to be able to use both the tops (for lazier riding and for super slow technical sections where I am picking up my front a lot) and the drops most of the time.

- In the drops I lower my CG significantly which is a real benefit for all of the flow sections that have been added to the chunky sniggles I prefer.

After 2 seasons with this bike, I believe the Cowchippers have been fun, however they are not Woodchippers. I will likely swap out for an LD stem and Woodchippers (and bring my drops up a touch as they would become primary/only position) at some point if I continue to use this bike as intended for technical singletrack. This current setup however is versatile and has been a lot of fun, I just like the hook feel and flat ramps of the Woodchipper bars better for technical riding and may end game there.

Based on my experience with this bike, I would have little concern converting a regular fat bike to drop bars especially if it was for snow riding. You may loose a little leverage up front by shortening your stem and not compensating with super wide bars (Good to use a wide(ish) drop like a Cowchipper at least though). However, I have found when running drops on dirt or snow, that I tend to lay out a little longer with more reach anyway so I am not shortening things up as much as one might expect. Just a longer and narrower stance over the bike which weights the front wheel a little more.

Hope that kind of helps.

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Old 12-03-2018, 02:05 PM
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Photos from your rides.

Things came together on Friday morning for a frosty but sunny up-island all-terrain ride. I planned a serpentine route to link some favorite roads and, more importantly, to explore some unknown (to me) areas that are maybe off-limits during the busier season. Martha's Vineyard is a bustling place on the surface, but, looking beyond that, it's a wonder of quiet back-roads, paths and other scenic byways... that often requires improvised navigation because the best maps regularly misrepresent the current status of what actually connects one place to another, and that is maybe the best part of it IMO.
For this day I chose the SC 27.5 hardtail for the variety of pavement, sand, gravel, grassy fields, single track and frozen muck. With few exceptions, things work out. The roads and trails are mostly where the maps say they should be, and I get a little help from the local farm dog (no picture!) on how to cross a rushing stream absent a footbridge.
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Old 12-07-2018, 08:52 AM
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