Modern 700c alloy rim-brake rims roundup: 622mm ETRTO, 28h+, wideish internal

[tl179]

stock is probably running low but OP's meet all those specs.

[many_styles]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

doesnt look like they are available yet, but:


https://hedcycling.com/products/belgium-r-rims/

https://store.hedcycling.com/belgium...rake-clincher/

Awesome, thanks!


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[brewsmith]

No experience with the others listed, but I had a set of wheels built around the quills that were fantastic. The spec and build quality were top notch, and they seem to be more available being us built

[M_D_S]

Very happy with my Eastons - they are somewhat aero, and work really well set up tubeless with Hutchinson 25's. I don't think they are that different from the HED's in terms of overall build quality. My wheelbuilder also offered the Kinlins, which he really liked.

[joevers]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

doesnt look like they are available yet, but:


https://hedcycling.com/products/belgium-r-rims/

https://store.hedcycling.com/belgium...rake-clincher/

Wow that looks great. Some math puts that new rim laced 24/24 to the new DT 240 centerlock hubs at around 1385g. That's seriously impressive for a really nice modern alloy disc wheelset. Can't wait to see what they've changed from the Belgium+.

Originally Posted by M_D_S

Very happy with my Eastons - they are somewhat aero, and work really well set up tubeless with Hutchinson 25's. I don't think they are that different from the HED's in terms of overall build quality. My wheelbuilder also offered the Kinlins, which he really liked.

They're not BTW. November Bicycles insists they're the same factory I think.

Owning both rims, I believe it.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by slowpoke

First off, the rim vs disc brake discussion is over there.

Now for my fellow retro-curmudgeons who are sticking with rim brakes, and because HED Belgium Pluses are pretty much unavailable, what decent MSW rims are left in this space?

Looking for:
- 622mm / 700c
- machined sidewalls
- 28h/32h options
- 20mm internal width or wider
- tubeless compatibility

HED Belgium R, 419g, $165
- supposedly the successor to the Belgium+, but haven't heard much news yet. also the most expensive

Velocity Quill, 465g, $140
- how's Velocity USA's quality compared to Velocity of the past?

Easton R90 SL, 455g, $150
- okay, these are 19.5mm internal width. supposedly folks have reported the rims being "soft" and prone to dents, though.

DT R460, 450g, ~$55
- again, 18mm internal width, but the price can't be beat compared to the others. does DT Swiss have a wider rim for a bit more money?

I also checked out Altamonts, but they max out at 24h spokes.

Looking for more options or any reviews of these rims, thanks!

I've built 3 of the 4 mentioned and the HED, Velocity and DT 'build quality' is a wash. All built easily, even tension, true, round, easy..

As for value, hard to beat the DT460.

Velocity hasn't really had QC issues for a while. Yes, some when they moved the whole manufacturing operation from Down Under(Australia) to Florida but that was years ago.

I see that you mentioned alloy but look at these too. Not much more $..

https://btlos.com/

[jacrider]

H Plus Son Archetype?

Lots of drillings available. A couple of colours - black, gray and silver.

23mm external width, so maybe 19mm internal?

[soulspinner]

Have 460s and 411s. For the money the 460s are great. You are looking for more internal width but I noticed my ride slightly cushier with 25s. Gonna try 28s next.

[saab2000]

Originally Posted by nalax

Boyd has a new replacement for the Altamont coming.

Do you have a source for this? Looks like a nice rim.

I have some Boyd Altamont Lite wheels and have been very pleased with them.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by jacrider

H Plus Son Archetype?

Lots of drillings available. A couple of colours - black, gray and silver.

23mm external width, so maybe 19mm internal?

Not tubeless...

Looking for:
- 622mm / 700c
- machined sidewalls
- 28h/32h options
- 20mm internal width or wider
- tubeless compatibility

[AngryScientist]

Almost forgot Open Pro UST meets needs more or less too. Don't know what the status of production is on them though.

[yinzerniner]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

Almost forgot Open Pro UST meets needs more or less too. Don't know what the status of production is on them though.

The open pros had issues when first released, at least in the rim brake verrsion as they were very light and had issues with tension
https://novemberbicycles.com/blogs/b...c-open-pro-ust

Pretty sure mavic stopped production. However their allroad rim seemed to fare better as it was wider and probably a bit heavier, but only available as a pre built set
https://planetcyclery.com/mavic-allr...m_source=zaius

[nalax]

Originally Posted by saab2000

Do you have a source for this? Looks like a nice rim.

I have some Boyd Altamont Lite wheels and have been very pleased with them.

Here is a link from their web site:
https://boydcycling.com/blogs/news/a...021-and-beyond

And here on PL:
https://forums.thepaceline.net/showp...0&postcount=16

Hopefully they get shipped sometime this season.

[robt57]

Favs for me are Belguim iterations, all. But for me the h+ architype get used a lot as i am squemish on Hed prices.

I grab once built or straglers no realized as a build every chance i get though.

I also did Pacentis for a year, but the V1 SL23s converted me from the brand after getting stuck with 8 as paper weights. The disc ones still fine, SL and CL. The SL23 should have been recalled imo. I did love the braking performance on them too.

Kinlins, are any welded? I have some 31ts on the wall I've never laced up. Almost bought Kinlin 26t, same erd as SL23s, but never got there either..

But the ones I keep are usually the Belguims I build.

10 years back I replaced all the OP rims here with A23s, still all in service and exceeded what I thought to expect. I deemed the alloy quite soft, but live on... Maybe due to all 32 spoke 3x builds...

[Wakatel_Luum]

Originally Posted by yinzerniner

The open pros had issues when first released, at least in the rim brake verrsion as they were very light and had issues with tension
https://novemberbicycles.com/blogs/b...c-open-pro-ust

Pretty sure mavic stopped production. However their allroad rim seemed to fare better as it was wider and probably a bit heavier, but only available as a pre built set
https://planetcyclery.com/mavic-allr...m_source=zaius

My wheel builder rates them better than the DT's which aren't bad but not great either. I just bought the last pair of 32 hole UST's I could find so will find out how good they are?