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Old 10-15-2022, 11:29 PM
RobbieTunes RobbieTunes is offline
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You obviously haven't figured out the sprocket sequence for 12 speed, starting with a 12. I'm 69 and have no problem with my 46/30 and 10-36. Those much older than me are no longer a target audience. FWIW, my regular 52 mile route has 3750 feet of climbing. An easiesr route only has about 2800 in the first 23 miles of the 46 mile route, according to my Garmin edge 530. I only need the big ring for the easier route
I’m going out on a limb and say you are above average.

However, could you explain how “sprocket sequence for 12 speed, starting with a 12” has any relation to cassettes that start at 11? I’m confused.

I rode a route pretty similar tp your regular route today. As the sweeper, I was going back a lot to pick up a newer guy on a 46/30 and 11-28 10-speed. He said it was his first road bike. He was losing contact on both the hills and the flats. I recommended he get a 10-36 10-speed cassette and he said he’d try it. Now, if I can convince him to drop the wheel reflectors and fork disc, and fix his fit. He bought his bike (used) from a bike shop, and they basically sold him a gravel bike, and a bit of a bill of goods, IMO.
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Old 10-16-2022, 07:04 AM
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@RobbieTunes. Try reading my post that includes a quote requesting a 12 speed cassette that starts with a 12 or 13T sprocket. It really makes no sense. Both SRAM and Shimano have cassettes that go with their chain ring offerings and meet the needs of most riders.

There's no rule that says you have to use the small sprockets if you don't need them. If you ride flat lands, get a 10-26 or 10-28 SRAM cassette and use it as a 12-26 or 12-28 10 speed or 11-30 Shimano cassette and use as a 12-30 11 speed.

I recently switched from a 48/31 crank back to 46/30 because the 48/10 saw so little use. I use the 46/10 a lot more on moderately sloped, but long descents. I can spin it up to 42 mph and then coast on the steeper sections. I can start using the 46/10 in the low 30's.

I use Shimano cranks for more range and better shifting with SRAM 12 speed.
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Old 06-09-2023, 01:21 PM
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Did these cassettes ever appear anywhere? I never was able to find any for sale, anywhere. Talking about the 12-speed, 11-36 cassette. Thanks.
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Old 06-09-2023, 03:52 PM
callmeishmael callmeishmael is offline
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They seem to have appeared in the UK:

https://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk/sh...xoCU0AQAvD_BwE

https://www.condorcycles.com/product...675_bbf6f8c0c9

Sunrace also have an 11-36 12sp, with an hg freehub fairly widely available.
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Old 06-09-2023, 07:30 PM
slowpoke slowpoke is online now
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@RobbieTunes. Try reading my post that includes a quote requesting a 12 speed cassette that starts with a 12 or 13T sprocket. It really makes no sense. Both SRAM and Shimano have cassettes that go with their chain ring offerings and meet the needs of most riders.
If there was a 12-36, we'd get the coveted 16t cog back:

12-13-14-15-16-17-19-21-24-28-32-36T

With a 46t chainring, the 15 to 17t jump is a 13%.
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Old 06-10-2023, 04:58 AM
callmeishmael callmeishmael is offline
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If there was a 12-36, we'd get the coveted 16t cog back:

12-13-14-15-16-17-19-21-24-28-32-36T

With a 46t chainring, the 15 to 17t jump is a 13%.
Does anyone else remember the old Miche 10sp (?) cassettes where you could choose every cog? I remember having 12-17 straight through on my tt bike.

But then when you went down Tring hill on the F11/10 you could easily spin out a 53/11 with articulated lorries going mad when they realised they were struggling to overtake you ... an absolutely mad course.
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Old 06-10-2023, 11:10 PM
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If there was a 12-36, we'd get the coveted 16t cog back:

12-13-14-15-16-17-19-21-24-28-32-36T
This. I use the 11 on my DA 11x34 here and there but I’d much rather have the 16. 12x34 or 12x36 would be perfect.
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Old 05-19-2024, 05:14 PM
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I know this is an old thread but….had anyone used an 11-36 cassette from shimano or SRAM yet on Campagnolo Chorus or Record 12 shifters and derailleur?
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