I hate chain whips...

[p nut]

Are you hamfisting the lock ring on there? Maybe not so tight and a tab of grease would do the trick.

I also use a huge/heavy pipe wrench on the lock ring tool when unscrewing. It seems to be almost effortless. I don’t ever have instances where you’re pushing like crazy and all of the sudden it lets go. I’ve had that happen plenty with small wrenches.

[Likes2ridefar]

Originally Posted by 72gmc

^^^^ The Stein tool. I’m a convert. Read about this tool in a bike packing dot com editor’s list. Now I have one and my chain whip is gone. I’m a big fan of Abbey Tools but not of chain whips.

Likewise, I got one as well. Great tool!

[ChainNoise]

I'll echo everyone - any plier type will be a breeze compared to a whip. I got a cheapo one off Amazon and works perfect.

[mdeth1313]

Pedros pliers/vise grip - switched years ago and I'll never use a stupid whip again.

[Hilltopperny]

We have the Park tools version at the shop I help out at.

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[slambers3]

This isn’t a recommendation for a different tool, but rather a technique-put the lockring tool in your vise, place cassette/wheel on the tool in the vise and use the chain whip on the cassette like a wrench. Greatly reduce tool slippage injuries because you’re putting force with the wheel away from the cassette, not pushing down towards it. Adding a link or two to the chainwhip can be helpful sometimes as well.

[Mikej]

I don’t see the problem with a chain whip. I use the 3/8 drive abbey cassette lock ring socket on a long snap on ratchet with a Park 11s whip. AND I use a Wera torque wrench so I can properly tighten to 40 nm. The Plier’s don’t offer the same leverage as a whip.

[Dired]

Originally Posted by fa63

Pedro's Vise Whip. Love mine.

^^^

[Permanent socks]

I'm not sure how you're hurting yourself removing a cassette?

I would guess technique is poor.

Are you using a rachet with a 1" socket on your locking tool?

The handles of your whip and rachet should be close enough together that you push towards each other.

If you still experience slippage of the whip then make sure you're pushing down on the whip and it's secure before lining up the locking tool/rachet.

You should be able to lift up the wheel with the whip.

Make sure you are on 1 cog with the whip.

[54ny77]

[marciero]

Love the design of that Stein tool. From the looks of it you reposition the allen/lug/bolts to match the small cog size?? My 25 y/o Park whip is too fat for 12sp cassette so time for an upgrade.

[redir]

You gotta make sure you have the whip on the same cog going all the way round. Never had this problem with my Park Tool chain whip. The pliers do look nifty though.

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by litcrazy

I have a Pedro’s version of that stein tool that must be 20 years old. Must pop up for cheap used for cheap I’d think.

I've also go the Pedros tool, and it works great. Similar tools are also made by Unior and Pro Bikegear:

https://uniorusa.com/products/casset...c&gad_source=1
https://www.pro-bikegear.com/us/tool...assette-wrench

[hokoman]

For $17 at the local decathlon store. Works well... I was a little skeptical, but has spacing for 5 different sizes. 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14.

[NHAero]

I can always count on the Paceline to make me aware of something I need that I never have heard of I have a couple of chain whips which are probably not rated for 11 speed cassette spacing but still seem to work. Bikes hanging up here have small cogs ranging from 10 to 13 so the fixed pin tools are less desirable for me.