Positive thoughts and tailwinds to our FL members

[nobuseri]

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Originally Posted by thwart

hang in there, keith. My heart goes out to anyone having to do all that stuff with what you’re dealing with.

[oldguy00]

Originally Posted by Ralph

I'm beginning to wonder why I live here. About 15 miles NE of Orlando. Sure....our damage probably won't be too bad....busted gates, a few roof tiles gone, etc. But for those on W coast, roads already clogged....bumper to bumper on I 75 N. Governor who claims climate change a hoax, etc. Local governments doing their best to pave or build on every square foot in spite of land preservations written in local laws. Developers find a way around. Seems like about everywhere has some kind of natural disaster eventually.

My brother is in Longwood. Hope it doesn't hit you guys too hard.

[C50]

A quick update from the Tampa area. I am northeast of downtown and far enough inland that I am not located in any sort of flood/evacuation zone. I am well prepared and follow the "run from water, hide from wind" strategy. It was a long night but I have power and A/C this morning, many do not. The slight turn to the south made the eye of the storm make landfall south of the Bay which was great news for Tampa. The winds literally emptied the bay pushing water out before what surge we had came back but not to the severity it would have been if the the eye made landfall north of the bay. Our good fortune means our neighbors to the south took the full impact of both wind and water. That is always a difficult concept to wrestle with knowing my home is safe because someone else had a much worse experience.

[AngryScientist]

Very sad to hear of more deaths and lots of destruction. Tornados? Craziness.

I feel for those effected. I predict some zip codes are going to become uninsurable. I know a good buddy of mine lost a few vehicles in the last round of storms. I'll assume he got an insurance payout, but how many times is that going to work?

I'm not sure how some people will recover from this.

My best wishes to all down there, hang in there!

[54ny77]

I evacuated Monday for Milton. Drove to Orlando in middle of night (the only option) to get out since TPA was a no go and oh by the way thanks American Airlines for increasing the price of 1-way tickets that Sat. night and even Sun. morning were about $490 each and by night were ~$3k each. Stay classy.

Car went for an underwater swim in Helene and is toast, which sucks. Most importantly though, bikes are fine.

Know folks who lost far worse. Stuff can be replaced, people can't.

[AngryScientist]

Originally Posted by 54ny77

oh by the way thanks American Airlines for increasing the price of 1-way tickets that Sat. night and even Sun. morning were about $490 each and by night were ~$3k each. Stay classy.

I hope they get called on the carpet for that one. That's a pretty crappy move in the middle of an emergency situation.

Sorry for your troubles 54. As you mentioned, could be a lot worse, but still, sucks.

[54ny77]

Keith we all hope you fared well. East side sure got whalloped with some crazy tornados. Pics and vids from friends were hard to believe. Thought it was Kansas, but no, it was West Palm….

Originally Posted by Keith A

Thanks for the kind words. Just finished buttoning up our office and did 1/2 my house last night -- going to finish the rest of the house this afternoon. I tell you, it is certainly hard doing these things with a traumatic brain injury, and I still don't have my right field vision :-(

[ntb1001]

Originally Posted by 54ny77

I evacuated Monday for Milton. Drove to Orlando in middle of night (the only option) to get out since TPA was a no go and oh by the way thanks American Airlines for increasing the price of 1-way tickets that Sat. night and even Sun. morning were about $490 each and by night were ~$3k each. Stay classy.

Car went for an underwater swim in Helene and is toast, which sucks. Most importantly though, bikes are fine.

Know folks who lost far worse. Stuff can be replaced, people can't.

54ny77
Glad you’re ok, crazy to see in the news about what’s happening where you are.
(Hope the Pogliaghi is ok too)


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[54ny77]

Poghi is safe and sound.

Milton could have been far worse. Helene ravaged so many across multiple states. Terrible tragedies and loss of life.

Originally Posted by ntb1001

54ny77
Glad you’re ok, crazy to see in the news about what’s happening where you are.
(Hope the Pogliaghi is ok too)


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[Ralph]

The subject has been touched upon above but....who wants to own real estate in a probable hurricane path, or...what company is willing to insure it (how long will the reinsurance mkt be there)? and who wants to buy real estate (from you) if you can't insure it, etc?

We have insurance on our home in Longwood (just N of Orlando), but it's getting more and more expensive. And companies are dropping out.

At some point....insurance and taxes make homeownership impossible for many. and banks won't loan on some of this property...so how can first time buyers own home. You can rent....but investors have same problems, and have to pass the cost on to the renters.

I even question the wisdom of owning our own home in this area. Other than enjoying our home and all it offers, it really kind of stupid to have this much money at risk. And if it is paid for, which was a goal for us older people, it's even more stupid now.

[54ny77]

Ralph thats surely a question a lot of people ask everywhere and at various stages of life.

Risk/reward and all that.

[merckxman]

This excerpt from a NYT article today about the NC and FL hurricanes caught my attention, “Hurricanes no longer hit the coastline and then die,” said Beth Zimmerman, who led disaster operations for the Federal Emergency Management Agency and is now a senior executive adviser with IEM, an emergency management consultant firm. “Everybody needs to be looking not to what they experienced in the past, but what is happening now in terms of hurricanes and extreme weather.”

[fignon's barber]

Originally Posted by Ralph

At some point....insurance and taxes make homeownership impossible for many. and banks won't loan on some of this property...so how can first time buyers own home. You can rent....but investors have same problems, and have to pass the cost on to the renters.

I even question the wisdom of owning our own home in this area.

I live in Palm Harbor, just north of Clearwater. I've lived in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Indiana, Michigan, and Florida. I think when you add everything up with regard to costs, Florida is still probably the least expensive, based on my experience and what my costs of living are.

[rice rocket]

Originally Posted by merckxman

This excerpt from a NYT article today about the NC and FL hurricanes caught my attention, “Hurricanes no longer hit the coastline and then die,” said Beth Zimmerman

Not sure what not she's remembering, but hurricanes have never immediately fizzled upon hitting coastlines.

[fourflys]

Originally Posted by Ralph

The subject has been touched upon above but....who wants to own real estate in a probable hurricane path, or...what company is willing to insure it (how long will the reinsurance mkt be there)? and who wants to buy real estate (from you) if you can't insure it, etc?

We have insurance on our home in Longwood (just N of Orlando), but it's getting more and more expensive. And companies are dropping out.

At some point....insurance and taxes make homeownership impossible for many. and banks won't loan on some of this property...so how can first time buyers own home. You can rent....but investors have same problems, and have to pass the cost on to the renters.

I even question the wisdom of owning our own home in this area. Other than enjoying our home and all it offers, it really kind of stupid to have this much money at risk. And if it is paid for, which was a goal for us older people, it's even more stupid now.

this very issue is going on in California as we speak.. insurance companies have been pulling out of the state due to the wildfires and folks are struggling to find insurance.. I plan to move out in 2026 and just hope my landlord doesn't have insurance issues before then.. I can't imagine hurricane-prone areas won't have a similar issue soon.. I know the last time I lived in SE Virginia, some companies wouldn't insure you if you lived in a flood area..