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Old 09-20-2023, 09:44 AM
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"Heard" this was coming...A push by the new owners. What I didn't expect was it to be labeled as a 'Moots'.[snip]
These guys ?
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Old 09-20-2023, 09:44 AM
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I remember Litespeed carbon bikes.
I still have one!
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Old 09-20-2023, 09:48 AM
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I remember when cigarettes were 50¢ a pack
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Old 09-20-2023, 09:48 AM
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I'm not really attuned to the "old wealthy rider who wants to keep up on group gravel rides without training much" market. I don't think it exists in this area, so possibly good prospects for growth?
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Old 09-20-2023, 09:50 AM
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Moots has never made me weak in the knees- its always been a company that seems to sell really really expensive titanium bikes that largely look the same as, and sometimes not as nice as, other titanium bikes.
there's two distinct versions of Moots, the prior semi-custom titanium builder, and the current cash cow milk the brand version. Which are you referring to?
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Old 09-20-2023, 10:00 AM
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I remember Litespeed carbon bikes.
What about seven's foray into carbon - Diamas SLX

https://sevencycles.com/bikes/limite...ect-diamas.php

For the price, I'd get in line for a firefly electric, which I may do if my health stays bad.
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Old 09-20-2023, 10:06 AM
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Now we can all find wings on the Oude De Kwaremont like Cancellara once did.
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I remember Litespeed carbon bikes.
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What about seven's foray into carbon - Diamas SLX

https://sevencycles.com/bikes/limite...ect-diamas.php
The Diamas was horrid! Sometimes you gotta try something to know that you shouldn't do something (loosely based on a quote from the movie "Neighbors 2" - you can look that one up...).

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Old 09-20-2023, 10:17 AM
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“Made in Asia in a partner factory” is a shark jump. What is moots now? Boltcutter adding stickers to carbondas?
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Old 09-20-2023, 10:18 AM
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Somewhat interesting, it uses a 47T 1x front chainring, meaning no "narrow wide" profile like most (all?) 1x chainrings I've seen.. Is this a shimano thing or ?? just curious, not to derail too much!
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Old 09-20-2023, 10:21 AM
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Who buys e-bikes like that? Seems a small market to me at $10k a bike.
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Old 09-20-2023, 10:28 AM
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This seems similar to my brother's dilemma with his BBQ place. He has some of the best in town and the demand is there but product and labor costs have almost made it impossible to run his business. He would have to charge so much for his BBQ that nobody would want to buy it. To counter this problem he began offering other 'cheaper' meats and a variety of daily specials to give more affordable choices and bigger profit margins. At some point you have to make some money to keep the lights on and Moots may be feeling the effects of the higher interest rates and higher production costs. I don't like it but I don't blame them for playing the cards they have available.
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Old 09-20-2023, 10:37 AM
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When I heard about this last week, the second thing I thought about was getting my popcorn ready to read the pace line comments.

I hope it's a good business decision for them in the long run. On some levels this makes sense to me, your brand should be a guide, not a jailer. You may have built your legacy with a given material but if that material just doesn't make engineering sense for a new project then it makes sense to go in a different direction.
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Old 09-20-2023, 10:44 AM
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I remember Litespeed carbon bikes.
There are still "Litespeed" carbon bikes.
https://obedbikes.com/

Same company, but they renamed the part that wasn't quite in line with their core branding of Ti. Maybe Moots will do that in the future too.
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Old 09-20-2023, 10:44 AM
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I got one thing to say, 10 grand. Nope.
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Old 09-20-2023, 10:46 AM
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Honestly, this could be a home run for Moots. The number of sales of these could potentially be in the high single-digits...

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