I bought vintage Shamals...Now what?

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by in_version

I would consider myself a decent wheel builder and I think I will be handling the work. Any thoughts on specific tensions, I have access to a park and wheelsmith tensiometers.

Also I read elsewhere on this forum that although an 11s cassette may fit, one may not be able to use the gear closest to the spokes as the derailleur my make contact.

Much appreciated.

Next gen. of these wheels, 'HPW', straight pull spokes, had the FH body deeper into the hub shell which interfered with 11s. Yours are fine.

For tension, I'd say in the 120kgf range, drive side rear and front. When these first came out Campagnolo offered a bonus to pros who won stages using them. Early 90s. Coincided with the EPO era...lots of Geweiss Ballan guys used them, Berzin.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by in_version

I would consider myself a decent wheel builder and I think I will be handling the work. Any thoughts on specific tensions, I have access to a park and wheelsmith tensiometers.

Also I read elsewhere on this forum that although an 11s cassette may fit, one may not be able to use the gear closest to the spokes as the derailleur my make contact.

Much appreciated.

Next gen. Shamals, HPW, straight pull spokes, had an issue with 11s since the FH body was set further into the hub body. Yours are fine.

As for tension, about 120kgf for drive side rear and front. When these first came out, early 90s, Campagnolo paid a bonus to pros who won stages with them. Berzin, as an example. Also on titanium DeRosas.

Oooops dup-age....phone-ism.

[jmoore]

Originally Posted by in_version

Thanks for your input. In the interest of being specific, your frame is almost like the one pictured above but instead of the dark charcoal base of the FNG scheme, it is dark green, it also does not have the og fork or chromed head lugs.

None of these things prevented me from purchasing your frame as I was about to, the one thing that did was its size. Just a cm too big. You were very helpful and patient with me though, and I hope to be sending a saddle your way someday soon.

You are correct on the ht lugs and fork. But that pic looks dark green to me.

Either way, your bike is going to be fantastic when it's finished.


No problem on not buying the frame. Someone will want it eventually. And if they don't my 10yo son will have a really nice bike once he's tall enough.

And I'm always ready for another saddle when you are.

[mattsbeers]

I had some Vento's (again same rim but more spokes) the eyelts looked horrible and they so heavy. They look awesome but I had a couple rear spokes break (at the head) and dumped them. They look great and are sooooo cool but I would say in 2015 those could be your wall hanger/display wheels? And get some more up to date daily wheels.

[christian]

FNG is charcoal with teal and pink chevrons. I sold a nice 57 in that scheme last year.

http://forums.thepaceline.net/showth...ght=merckx+fng

[in_version]

Originally Posted by mattsbeers

I had some Vento's (again same rim but more spokes) the eyelts looked horrible and they so heavy. They look awesome but I had a couple rear spokes break (at the head) and dumped them. They look great and are sooooo cool but I would say in 2015 those could be your wall hanger/display wheels? And get some more up to date daily wheels.

During any year I don't believe in "wall hanger display" wheels or bikes unless it was ridden by Major Taylor.

You have any up to date wheels to sell me?

[in_version]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Next gen. of these wheels, 'HPW', straight pull spokes, had the FH body deeper into the hub shell which interfered with 11s. Yours are fine.

For tension, I'd say in the 120kgf range, drive side rear and front. When these first came out Campagnolo offered a bonus to pros who won stages using them. Early 90s. Coincided with the EPO era...lots of Geweiss Ballan guys used them, Berzin.

As always glad to here some of your knowledge. And thanks for the tension tip. I'll update when I get em cleaned up and running.