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Old 09-02-2023, 02:24 PM
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I actually like it. Lots of glass and light. To many cars today feels so cramped.
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Old 09-02-2023, 02:27 PM
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Yeah the recent beaver teeth grills are uggggly.
What? You don’t like the IX grill:




And don’t forget the new XM:



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Old 09-02-2023, 02:29 PM
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Most people would say this isn’t killing it:
A 12.5% increase in sales this year versus last year is pretty much killing it in the automotive industry.
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Old 09-02-2023, 02:44 PM
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A 12.5% increase in sales this year versus last year is pretty much killing it in the automotive industry.
Compared to other brands, they got killed.
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Old 09-02-2023, 02:49 PM
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Think Kia and Hyundai....

are killing it. And Elon.
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Old 09-02-2023, 03:14 PM
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The only "homage to the 2002" that I see is the trapezoidal cabin, and even that is faint. My 2002 was one of my favorite cars but this is a hard pass.
Oh I meant the year 2002, not the model. Would love an homage to that model tho!
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Old 09-02-2023, 03:14 PM
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The big greenhouse on that design is great. I'll take one, but with a solid roof...
Does a glass greenhouse like this take a roof rack?
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Old 09-02-2023, 03:16 PM
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Compared to other brands, they got killed.
You can (almost) always find another manufacturer with higher sales growth. But, the industry as a whole is doing well, and BMW is right there with it. Despite your declaration, they are not getting killed.
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Old 09-02-2023, 03:21 PM
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You can (almost) always find another manufacturer with higher sales growth. But, the industry as a whole is doing well, and BMW is right there with it. Despite your declaration, they are not getting killed.
You are right. it was easy to find multiple brands with year over year growth in the US greater than 50% in the same period Bmw grew 12.5%. They aren’t even in the top 10.
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Old 09-02-2023, 03:28 PM
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2 models in this sites top 10 2023 ugly list
https://www.scottbradford.us/2023/07...23-model-year/

Here they are with first and third place for ugliest 23 model:

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/12/th...ording-to-you/

I really liked my x3 from 2017 but the new ones are who designs their taillights?
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Old 09-02-2023, 03:47 PM
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Still won't force their owners to use their turn signals.....sigh
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Old 09-02-2023, 05:00 PM
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Oh I meant the year 2002, not the model. Would love an homage to that model tho!
I was alluding to the references in the original linked article.

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Still won't force their owners to use their turn signals.....sigh
IME Tesla owners are the worst offenders in that category; one could almost believe that the prevalent base models aren't equipped with them standard
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Old 09-02-2023, 05:02 PM
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great! more glasses for thieves to smash
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Old 09-02-2023, 05:14 PM
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Meh. The design is trying too hard to be "modern."

I doubt that roof would pass the test for rollover damage.

But it's better than the design language of the current 4 series with the beaver-tooth or Hitler-mustache look. And the iX...wow, that's definitely an acquired taste.
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Old 09-02-2023, 05:15 PM
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