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Old 08-20-2024, 01:17 PM
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How much for the frame?? I can't even afford to ask this question but I'm curious.
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Old 08-20-2024, 01:25 PM
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Did carbon fiber replace Ti at number 22 on the element chart ?
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Old 08-20-2024, 01:53 PM
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I think that’s 800 for just the pulley/fairing. Hope Im wrong but with Ceramic Speed you just never know.

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$800 bucks for an RD? Yikes. This does remind me a bit of the cyber truck thread
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Old 08-20-2024, 02:09 PM
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Wow, No22 continues to push the boundaries.

This thing looks wild!

What is that RD situation all about?

forget the RD situation, what is that FD situation all about?
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Old 08-20-2024, 02:09 PM
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Further proof that an aero-seeking cyclist fool and his money are soon parted.

I also applaud No. 22's efforts at innovation in ti frame design though much prefer a more classic look.
I agree. I love the look of 'classic' No 22s. Let titanium be titanium.

I tend to think that their innovation is pushing them into areas that are better served by Carbon manufacturing than 3D printing every last thing. And I am not a carbon fan myself.
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Old 08-20-2024, 02:16 PM
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Old 08-20-2024, 02:29 PM
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The luddite in me wonders about the structural integrity of 3D printed plast . . . er . . . carbon fiber. Sunday's ride had me going down a hill at 49.8mph and a failure of a 3D printed plast . . . er . . . carbon fiber bicycle at that speed would, well, um, not be fun.
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Old 08-20-2024, 02:30 PM
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I tend to think that their innovation is pushing them into areas that are better served by Carbon manufacturing than 3D printing every last thing. And I am not a carbon fan myself.
I think this is true right now, though additive manufacturing technology is improving very quickly, and I wouldn't rule out the possibility that in another 10 years, it could be cost competitive with easier customization. But you're not going to make that leap all at once, so I think it's good that folks like No. 22 are working on that now.
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Old 08-20-2024, 02:32 PM
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The luddite in me wonders about the structural integrity of 3D printed plast . . . er . . . carbon fiber. Sunday's ride had me going down a hill at 49.8mph and a failure of a 3D printed plast . . . er . . . carbon fiber bicycle at that speed would, well, um, not be fun.
Just to be clear, this bike is 3D printed titanium with a filament wound carbon fiber seat tube.
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Old 08-20-2024, 02:32 PM
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$800 bucks for an RD? Yikes.
It's just the cage/pulleys. RD is extra. I thought they cost more, but only the 3d printed ones are more expensive. $1900.

Ceramic Speed got some flack for not being aero, I guess this is their answer. I think this is more in the "looks aero" camp than actually aero. Kind of like some of the aero cars from the 1930's, which were more aero driving in reverse.
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Old 08-20-2024, 02:39 PM
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Just to be clear, this bike is 3D printed titanium with a filament wound carbon fiber seat tube.
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Now I feel like a luddite with a side of stupid.
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Old 08-20-2024, 02:41 PM
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I'm in if they let me 3d print a matching Wald basket for the front.

All jokes aside, cool bike even if I am absolutely not the client.
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Old 08-20-2024, 03:04 PM
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How much for the frame?? I can't even afford to ask this question but I'm curious.
Well the current “Reactor” is a rim brake frame @ $6500.
The upcoming bike pictured is really closer to their disc brake “Aurora” which comes in @ $6900 currently.
I’m guessing closer to 10K but who knows.
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Old 08-20-2024, 03:05 PM
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I agree. I love the look of 'classic' No 22s. Let titanium be titanium.

I tend to think that their innovation is pushing them into areas that are better served by Carbon manufacturing than 3D printing every last thing. And I am not a carbon fan myself.
Customizing Carbon fiber mold manufacturing is in no way cost and time comparable to 3D printing. We all want custom bikes to meet our fitting needs and Carbon fiber mold manufacturing is not going to cut it in the near future, it is going to be a quickly dying industry. My prediction, Carbon bikes will be dead in less than 10 years, to expensive, labor intensive and not effectivly recyclable to continue to make.

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Old 08-20-2024, 03:08 PM
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Like a lot of what No. 22 does, this doesn’t appeal to me. Why do they put a little piece of metal at the end of their “own” made in Asia forks?

Because I like to run other people's business for them, I think they should just concentrate on reducing the 16 week lead time quoted on the website. When that’s fixed, do crazy finishes and 3D printing.
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