Know the rules The Paceline Forum Builder's Spotlight


Go Back   The Paceline Forum > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 09-20-2023, 09:44 AM
sg8357 sg8357 is offline
Forward the Foundation
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Highland Heights, Kehn-Tuck-ee
Posts: 2,824
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldpotatoe View Post
"Heard" this was coming...A push by the new owners. What I didn't expect was it to be labeled as a 'Moots'.[snip]
These guys ?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg bd.jpg (122.6 KB, 292 views)
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-20-2023, 09:44 AM
rice rocket's Avatar
rice rocket rice rocket is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,977
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elefantino View Post
I remember Litespeed carbon bikes.
I still have one!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 09-20-2023, 09:48 AM
charliedid's Avatar
charliedid charliedid is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Chicago
Posts: 13,495
I remember when cigarettes were 50¢ a pack
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-20-2023, 09:48 AM
unterhausen unterhausen is offline
Randomhead
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
Posts: 7,217
I'm not really attuned to the "old wealthy rider who wants to keep up on group gravel rides without training much" market. I don't think it exists in this area, so possibly good prospects for growth?
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 09-20-2023, 09:50 AM
rice rocket's Avatar
rice rocket rice rocket is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,977
Quote:
Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Moots has never made me weak in the knees- its always been a company that seems to sell really really expensive titanium bikes that largely look the same as, and sometimes not as nice as, other titanium bikes.
there's two distinct versions of Moots, the prior semi-custom titanium builder, and the current cash cow milk the brand version. Which are you referring to?
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 09-20-2023, 10:00 AM
pdonk pdonk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 416
Posts: 3,094
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elefantino View Post
I remember Litespeed carbon bikes.
What about seven's foray into carbon - Diamas SLX

https://sevencycles.com/bikes/limite...ect-diamas.php

For the price, I'd get in line for a firefly electric, which I may do if my health stays bad.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 09-20-2023, 10:06 AM
texbike's Avatar
texbike texbike is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 6,154
Quote:
Originally Posted by merckx View Post
Now we can all find wings on the Oude De Kwaremont like Cancellara once did.
^^Lol!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elefantino View Post
I remember Litespeed carbon bikes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pdonk View Post
What about seven's foray into carbon - Diamas SLX

https://sevencycles.com/bikes/limite...ect-diamas.php
The Diamas was horrid! Sometimes you gotta try something to know that you shouldn't do something (loosely based on a quote from the movie "Neighbors 2" - you can look that one up...).

Texbike
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 09-20-2023, 10:17 AM
PJN PJN is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,411
“Made in Asia in a partner factory” is a shark jump. What is moots now? Boltcutter adding stickers to carbondas?
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 09-20-2023, 10:18 AM
Davist's Avatar
Davist Davist is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 1,649
Somewhat interesting, it uses a 47T 1x front chainring, meaning no "narrow wide" profile like most (all?) 1x chainrings I've seen.. Is this a shimano thing or ?? just curious, not to derail too much!
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 09-20-2023, 10:21 AM
redir's Avatar
redir redir is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mountains of Virginia
Posts: 7,131
Who buys e-bikes like that? Seems a small market to me at $10k a bike.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 09-20-2023, 10:28 AM
lunardds lunardds is offline
LunarDDS
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 70
This seems similar to my brother's dilemma with his BBQ place. He has some of the best in town and the demand is there but product and labor costs have almost made it impossible to run his business. He would have to charge so much for his BBQ that nobody would want to buy it. To counter this problem he began offering other 'cheaper' meats and a variety of daily specials to give more affordable choices and bigger profit margins. At some point you have to make some money to keep the lights on and Moots may be feeling the effects of the higher interest rates and higher production costs. I don't like it but I don't blame them for playing the cards they have available.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 09-20-2023, 10:37 AM
FriarQuade FriarQuade is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: BendOR
Posts: 875
When I heard about this last week, the second thing I thought about was getting my popcorn ready to read the pace line comments.

I hope it's a good business decision for them in the long run. On some levels this makes sense to me, your brand should be a guide, not a jailer. You may have built your legacy with a given material but if that material just doesn't make engineering sense for a new project then it makes sense to go in a different direction.
__________________
Abbey Bike Tools

Steels are Alloys too!
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 09-20-2023, 10:44 AM
Jaybee Jaybee is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: 303
Posts: 4,414
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elefantino View Post
I remember Litespeed carbon bikes.
There are still "Litespeed" carbon bikes.
https://obedbikes.com/

Same company, but they renamed the part that wasn't quite in line with their core branding of Ti. Maybe Moots will do that in the future too.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 09-20-2023, 10:44 AM
Nomadmax Nomadmax is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SW Ohio
Posts: 1,801
I got one thing to say, 10 grand. Nope.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 09-20-2023, 10:46 AM
texbike's Avatar
texbike texbike is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 6,154
Honestly, this could be a home run for Moots. The number of sales of these could potentially be in the high single-digits...

Texbike
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.