Look 585

[robt57]

I had a Addict LTD for 6 seasons, Like a 585 with a touch more stiffness equally everywhere. Didn't absorb buzz quite as well.

But if we are talking Time frames, I put in a vote for an Addict HMX variant. A friend has it now, and it is on my miss it list still.

The Addict HMXs are also like the 585, very light, if that checks a box. My 61 with 7800 I tossed on when I first got it was 13.8lb with carbon tubulars. Good Di2 candidates as you start so light to start with,

[flying]

I had the 381i Kelme in 2002-2004 & later the 585 from 2005 on till 2012

Both were exceptional riding & really wish I had kept them

Carbon tubes with carbon lugs is as good as carbon ever got IMHO
Lively & comfortable + plenty stiff enough
After that anything carbon monocoque felt really odd. Stiff but dead IMO

Every now & then I see one & consider it but they are quite old now at 15+ years so it would have to be a very good example
of one that was cared for or better yet a NOS But I think I will stick to metals these days...Alum,Titanium,Steel

[paredown]

Originally Posted by RiderR

Interesting. Do you mean a Colnago "58" (which from memory has 56.5 tt)?

Yes--a Colnago '59' CT-1) was what I had--and pre carbon geo put that at about 56.5, which I think matches the newer '58' in frames from the C-50 era and newer.

[m_moses]

I have a 565 that looks very similar to Flying’s 585. I would say that way others have described the ride qualities of their 585s tracks well with my 565 experience.

I’m not sure what differentiates the two models but I presume it was a lesser, heavier grade of carbon used.


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[texbike]

Originally Posted by flying

Beautiful 585! This is my favorite color combo on them. I'd love to find a mint example of one of these (or the Team white) in a large. I've had a couple of 585s, but they were either less-than-stellar color combos or the wrong size and they ended up being re-homed. I've also had a 595, 381, 481, 271, several C40s/C50s, and now a Time VXS. The 585 really strikes me as the best of the lot. My only complaints are the sloping TT (I'm not really a fan of those...), the strange paint schemes, and the small number of them in the marketplace to choose from. It would be cool if Look would do a reissue of the 585 like Time did with the VXRS a few years ago.

Texbike

[kramnnim]

I rode a 585 for quite a few thousand miles and then switched to a 586, which I thought was an improvement.

Since then, I've been riding more modern monocoque frames like the Supersix Evo HM, R5, S5, Z5, Helium, Foil...and honestly I wouldn't pick the 585 or 586 over any of them.

[saab2000]

Originally Posted by kramnnim

I rode a 585 for quite a few thousand miles and then switched to a 586, which I thought was an improvement.

Since then, I've been riding more modern monocoque frames like the Supersix Evo HM, R5, S5, Z5, Helium, Foil...and honestly I wouldn't pick the 585 or 586 over any of them.

I will admit that my personal fascination with them is based on the fact that I liked these lugged composite bikes and lugged aluminum bikes way back into the early 1980s, when we would see Sean Kelly on a Vitus and Robert Millar and Phil Anderson and Duclos-Lassalle on the Peugeot carbon fiber frames. Then Lemond and Hinault in 1986 and from there they became more and more ubiquitous in pro racing. Lemond won the 1989 Tour on a TVT carbon frame and the Looks were derivatives of this technology.

I first rode one in 1989 when I tested a Look KG96 in Madison, WI. It was amazed at the smooth ride and the springy, light and lively feel of the frame. Over the years I always wanted one and when I got my 381 in the fall 2006 I wasn't disappointed even though it was already outdated. I enjoyed it on hard rides for several years and the main reason I moved on was that the seat post clamping mechanism left me nervous.

I still love the aesthetic of the lugged carbon and the level top tube. I'd love to get a Seven SLX622 or whatever they're called these days. They totally re-create that art/science fusion to my eyes.

This is my old 381, which I no longer have. I enjoyed this very much and I enjoy my 585s but I'm also under no illusions that there aren't better bikes. My fascination with them is entirely personal to me.

[RiderR]

Some beautiful bikes in this thread, thanks all for sharing.

[Dino Suegiù]

Originally Posted by flying

I had the 381i Kelme in 2002-2004 & later the 585 from 2005 on till 2012

Both were exceptional riding & really wish I had kept them

Carbon tubes with carbon lugs is as good as carbon ever got IMHO
Lively & comfortable + plenty stiff enough
After that anything carbon monocoque felt really odd. Stiff but dead IMO.

That may be the most classic and elegant Look paint scheme ever. I always find it really beautiful.


(That USE Alien seatpost, otoh...lord what a massive pita!)

[Dino Suegiù]

Am I mis-remembering or was there also a well-regarded Cyfac equivalent to the Look 585 and Time VXR, a sort of French "Holy Trinity" of top-shelf lugged carbon?

[Elefantino]

I don't know what's in the carbon fibers, or what's in the geometry, or what's simply in the name. I just know that when I ride the Look -- particularly when compared with modern carbons from Fuji, Look at C'Dale -- the 585 is the one that makes me smile.

Thanks, again, Dave!

[flying]

Originally Posted by Dino Suegiù

(That USE Alien seatpost, otoh...lord what a massive pita!)

Hahah yes I agree & changed it to a Token setback & later removed the Token graphics. This pic also shows the weight at 6460 grams with alum clinchers which dropped to 6300 grams even when I ran Campy Hyperons tubulars

[flying]

Originally Posted by texbike

Beautiful 585! This is my favorite color combo on them. ....
. The 585 really strikes me as the best of the lot. My only complaints are the sloping TT (I'm not really a fan of those...),

I agree

It was really a beautiful bike & could only be really appreciated in person

It had beautiful subtle curves to fork & rear triangle... really nice

Not super light by today's standards...this medium was 1023 grams. But...
it was beautifully made inside & out. Inside was amazingly smooth & finished

Then of course the ride itself was really nice IMHO.

[robt57]

Funny, before getting in this thread. I was going to give mine some love for my ride today. One of my fav arrows in the 'quiver'.
Wife calls that a garage for some reason...

Quick 30 mile glide, so smooth...

[nachetetm]

Originally Posted by texbike

Beautiful 585! This is my favorite color combo on them. I'd love to find a mint example of one of these (or the Team white) in a large. I've had a couple of 585s, but they were either less-than-stellar color combos or the wrong size and they ended up being re-homed. I've also had a 595, 381, 481, 271, several C40s/C50s, and now a Time VXS. The 585 really strikes me as the best of the lot. My only complaints are the sloping TT (I'm not really a fan of those...), the strange paint schemes, and the small number of them in the marketplace to choose from. It would be cool if Look would do a reissue of the 585 like Time did with the VXRS a few years ago.

Texbike

I was so close to get one of those a month ago... I got cold feet when I saw the headtube lenght and I thought it was too racy for me, but gosh those are beautiful frames.