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it was simple to add a 60amp breaker and 14-50 plug to utilize a home charger where electricity in Florida runs about 8 cents/kwh with taxes and fees. I agree that if you can't charge on a regular basis at home or work on an l2 charger, it would be tough to live with. I see folks at the EA chargers reading books on a regular basis as I drive by. That seems like a waste. For my part of the benefit is walking out to a charged car each morning and never having to worry stopping at a gas station. |
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Even if I did all the work myself it would be pretty expensive to do at my home.
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I paid about $1500 for my Tesla wall connector and professional installation. Cost will vary based on several factors, including the distance from your electrical box to where you want the charger installed. It is certainly not a trivial cost but not stupid expensive either, especially on a forum with lots of expensive bikes and other toys. I don’t say that lightly or to trivialize a non-trivial coat, but it’s within reach of many people to have a charger or at least the electrical infrastructure installed in their homes. So far since I took delivery of my car about seven weeks ago I’ve saved money on not filling up my car with gas. The upfront cost is there. After those are paid the monthly expenditures are definitely lower than with a gas car. |
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Or perhaps I miss your meaning. Last edited by cgolvin; 01-27-2023 at 06:49 PM. |
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There's a tax credit for installing a charger at home. Details are here: https://www.forbes.com/advisor/perso...er-tax-credit/.
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Depending on where your breaker box and if you have an empty slot I had the plug and breaker added for 350$ Bought a ChargePoint box to plug in it for 649$ I guess if your breaker box wasn’t near where you wanted to park your car it could get expensive but I don’t see where it’s misleading for most people |
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The charger is a one-time cost. After that it’s far cheaper per mile than any petroleum fuel. Not saying the upfront cost isn’t significant, but over time it’ll cost me less. Of this I’m sure. |
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Last edited by Ryun; 01-27-2023 at 07:10 PM. Reason: Saab answered already |
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Material alone for main to sub panel was way over a grand even with cheaper aluminum wire. Running 2/0 AL through conduit was one of the worst DIY projects I ever did. So yes, if your outlet is close to your main panel, it might be simple and relatively cheap, otherwise it won't be cheap and can be PITA. I could have avoided the PITA part by having it done by an electrician, but my guess is it would have cost me another 1,500 to 2,000 bucks. Last edited by Gsinill; 01-27-2023 at 07:33 PM. |
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I do have one friend who has been driving a Bolt for 3-4 years with just the 120V stock charger that came with the car. It's gonna add about 30-50 miles of range overnight, so with a 250 mile total range it works for them, even if one day they drive 120 miles and it takes three nights to get all the way back to full. |
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The vast majority of people will not have the expense of running over a 100' of wire.
The main expense is installation cost. If you DIY, the cost is greatly reduced but you have to know how. But the materials are expensive. Also I would not use aluminum or copper clad wire. IMO for sustained use, I would only use full copper. Technically, rated cable is rated cable but that's where I'm at. Maybe I'd feel different if I had to run 100' of it though. I would be checking those terminals monthly with a torque wrench though. |
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Research your vehicle max charge rate before over buying charging home system.
I almost shiet when I saw price of the wire. I actually had some 12x4 copper underground cable left over and used it 12ga 2x ground and 3x each run together for hots. 3x12=7 and 2x12=9 grnd. So I went 32A Juice box on 40a breaker and that required 8ga, so effective 7ga just fine. Our cars take max 6.8 and 7.6 kWh rate @ level 2 anyway, so the 32a JuiceBox on the 40a breaker is right there for Bolt. Bigger breaker and 50a circuit for a 40a JuiceBox would be 50% more money for a higher charging rate I could not benefit from with either the Bolt or the Pacifica/PHEV intake max rates, waste not. Quote:
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As a contrasting case (yes, of course, single data point), I own an EV but even with the rebates I can't justify the fast charger expense. We charge overnight on a standard outlet, roughly every 1.5 weeks, along the 20%-80% guide per above. There has never been a situation where the state of charge prevented us from using the car but, as you might surmise, we only use it for around town errands etc. (which has been the vast majority of our driving for quite a few years). |
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