Look 585

[johnnylarue]

Originally Posted by dave thompson

I like red bartape on my 585.

Oh that’s quite nice with the red forks.

[johnnylarue]

Originally Posted by weisan

Johnny pal, if the LOOK 585 is good enough for the pro teams at the 2005 Tour de France, it's good enough for you. No more excuses, enjoy your new bike and ride the heck out of it!

Thanks, weisan! I tend to agree with your assessment. Think I’m gonna throw the lights on and take it for a late night spin (if I can actually manage to keep my eyes open past 10pm...)

[mhespenheide]

I would try to find some of the black bar tape with red perforations, like this:
https://www.modernbike.com/deda-elem...pe---black-red

[johnnylarue]

Originally Posted by mhespenheide

I would try to find some of the black bar tape with red perforations, like this:
https://www.modernbike.com/deda-elem...pe---black-red

That looks pretty smart. After a three minute photoshop mockup, full red tape does seem to overwhelm the rest of the paint, so I think plain black—or with red accents—will be the way to go. (I’d also consider white to play off the Look logos, but it’s just too much upkeep.)

[owly]

After reading through this thread some time ago, thinking about road frames that would fit me ok, the 585 Optimum would do nicely. Would be nice if they came in a grey like the bike one page back.

[kiwisimon]

Get loud with the tape. A little more visual impact from the front and white bits of tape just needs a rag with a bit of dishwash detergent and a rinse the same time you wash your bike. Less fuss than cleaning your bib shorts.

Congrats on the bike and get some wider rubber on there.

https://www.prologo.it/en/products/onetouch-2

[rePhil]

I like the 585 a lot. I got mine through this forum and it appears I am the 4th owner Which confirms the phrase “One persons favorite bike is another’s catch and release”
No doubt it was used and there are places that the clear coat was not the best.
One single ride of 50 miles or so convinced me to go on the hunt for one in better condition. After finding another 585 that was better cosmetically. I sold my Strong steel which is to this day my favorite steel frame.
On June 17, 2015 Things took a turn for the worse when after riding it for a total of 946.7 miles I was crashed by a car that ended up running over the fork destroying it and the front wheel.Even the drivers insurance company didn't want it. I was eventually able to source another HCS5 fork. I have ridden it over 28k since the crash.
One day I came across another almost new 585. After building it up and riding it I sold my Moots. Because of the severity of the crash I will never sell it.
Besides it’s like an old friend, solid, dependable and always ready for a ride.

[Elefantino]

A customer just brought in a 585 Pro Team Origin (I think it's a 2009) for a tune-up and new FD. Although the frame is in good condition, it is completely filthy, with fraying cables and cracked housing.

I wept when I saw it. Sort of.

[texbike]

Originally Posted by johnnylarue

Johnny’s a happy camper today:
Attachment 1698018013



This bike is like warm butter gliding across a freshly toasted slice of bread. What a beautiful ride. Its 23mm tires feel significantly smoother than the 25mm I was riding on my beater. At speed, it glides over the bumps and cracks I’ve come to know (and brace for) with nary a jolt to the hands or seat. And equally noticeable, when my legs are nearing that point at which they turn to jelly near the top of a hill, one hard push on the pedal immediately takes me back to cruising speed. I’m... quite smitten.

Congrats on the bike! That was a great deal on a fantastic machine.

Originally Posted by Latestart

Amazing the bikes you can get for short money these days.

Agreed! There have been some incredible deals on high-end, rim brake/thin tire bikes here locally in the past year. There was a Serotta HSG carbon with HED aluminum wheels and SRAM Red on CL this past weekend for $750.
Crazy stuff! I've picked up a few bikes to play with over the last year that I probably shouldn't have (but they were such great deals!), which leads to that hoarding thread...

Originally Posted by johnnylarue

(Meanwhile, its direct rival C50 commands three times the price? ***!?)

Even the C50s are inexpensive! On a sidenote, I believe the 585 build quality is better than the C50s.

Originally Posted by robt57

I've had one for a few seasons. Last year late I upgraded it with some tubular Rolfs that presented themselves and tubeless tubular LGG Clement/Donnely and only ride twice before breaking out the off season meat/bikes. I can not wait to roll it when spring time comes, expect it will be chosen a lot.

Your 585 looks fantastic! Did you have it refinished or was it already done when you purchased it? I'd love to know who did the refinish. One of my struggles with the 585 was the limited number of attractive (to me) paint options available. It would be great to have one refinished back to the bare carbon with a bit more gloss finish and minimal decals like your bike has.

Texbike

[robt57]

Originally Posted by texbike

Your 585 looks fantastic! Did you have it refinished or was it already done when you purchased it? I'd love to know who did the refinish. One of my struggles with the 585 was the limited number of attractive (to me) paint options available. It would be great to have one refinished back to the bare carbon with a bit more gloss finish and minimal decals like your bike has.

Texbike

I got it already stripped after it was Rukus x-rayed. The owner got a new bike one he heard the price on the repaint. And the time to get it to that point lagged a bit, his fear was to loose the season and lost interest in the repaint. It sat in his office for 3 years in the box until he posted it on CL.

All I do is clean and 303 UV protection spray it, the vinyl I got off the internet and alcohol wiped and laid on.

If the vinyl get disturbed by future 303 juicings I may redo and clear over, but not planning to that if I don't have to.

But I also do dig it in all it's weavey naked goodness...

[johnnylarue]

Originally Posted by owly

After reading through this thread some time ago, thinking about road frames that would fit me ok, the 585 Optimum would do nicely. Would be nice if they came in a grey like the bike one page back.

I’d love to “graduate” to an Optimum eventually when my back decides it’s done with pure racing geometry. They’re considerably harder to find but they’re out there.

Originally Posted by kiwisimon

Get loud with the tape. A little more visual impact from the front and white bits of tape just needs a rag with a bit of dishwash detergent and a rinse the same time you wash your bike. Less fuss than cleaning your bib shorts.

Congrats on the bike and get some wider rubber on there.

https://www.prologo.it/en/products/onetouch-2

This is THE TAPE. Thanks, Simon! And yes, planning on some smoother tires.

Originally Posted by rePhil

I like the 585 a lot. I got mine through this forum and it appears I am the 4th owner Which confirms the phrase “One persons favorite bike is another’s catch and release”
No doubt it was used and there are places that the clear coat was not the best.
One single ride of 50 miles or so convinced me to go on the hunt for one in better condition. After finding another 585 that was better cosmetically. I sold my Strong steel which is to this day my favorite steel frame.
On June 17, 2015 Things took a turn for the worse when after riding it for a total of 946.7 miles I was crashed by a car that ended up running over the fork destroying it and the front wheel.Even the drivers insurance company didn't want it. I was eventually able to source another HCS5 fork. I have ridden it over 28k since the crash.
One day I came across another almost new 585. After building it up and riding it I sold my Moots. Because of the severity of the crash I will never sell it.
Besides it’s like an old friend, solid, dependable and always ready for a ride.

It’s not hard to see why this frame is a keeper for so many people. Good on ya for getting back on the horse, Phil.

Originally Posted by Elefantino

A customer just brought in a 585 Pro Team Origin (I think it's a 2009) for a tune-up and new FD. Although the frame is in good condition, it is completely filthy, with fraying cables and cracked housing.

I wept when I saw it. Sort of.

Yeah, the silver (or mud grey black) lining is that bike is being used rather than hung in a garage like a dead rabbit.

Originally Posted by texbike

Congrats on the bike! That was a great deal on a fantastic machine.

Even the C50s are inexpensive! On a sidenote, I believe the 585 build quality is better than the C50s.

Texbike

Thanks, Tex. Appreciate your take on the C50 too. Here in LA it’s hard to find even a trashed 80s Colnago Super for less than $1K. I’m sure bargains turn up every now and again, but the only C50s on the market right now are well over $2K. They’re lusty machines to a lot of people, which results in some owners overvaluing them I suppose... (They’re about as overvalued as the 585 is undervalued.) I’d still love to take a C50 for a spin someday tho.

[robt57]

Originally Posted by johnnylarue

I’d still love to take a C50 for a spin someday tho.

The 585 popped up while I was looking for that C50 for years. So 585 it is. The Chin stay with the window on the C50s I saw kinda irked me anyway,

I know this, the 585 is one of those of my +dozen or so that will be around perpetually. I got other stiffer bikes than the Origin, but none ride like it, none!

When I want stiff, I take the Team Issue Domane, definitely at the other edge of the window in a way that only matters to me, and not in result. Me being the weakest link etc.

[Millses]

Originally Posted by weisan

Exceptional comfort yet lively and responsive.

It looks sooooo sick!

[johnnylarue]

Originally Posted by Millses

It looks sooooo sick!

That black>white paint job is tough to beat.

[sjbraun]

My beloved 585 was stolen a few years ago, so once my insurance settlement arrived, I talked to Steve Hampsten. He'd made me a steel Strada Bianca previously that I really liked. That bike placed a priority on comfort and stability. I wanted something a bit sportier and fabricated in carbon fiber for my 585 replacement. I sent Steve the Look geo chart and asked him to build me a frame that utilized the contact points from the Strada Bianca with the geometry of the 585. The result is the Maglia Rosa you see attached. It's a great riding bike, maybe just a bit more compliant over the less than ideal Tucson roadways but with the same crisp handling and acceleration that made the 585 such a pleasure to ride.