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Everytime there's an old rivendell jersey on eBay it fetches well over $100.
I emailed recently (after Hail Mary but before this dust up) and was told there are no plans for such per riv. Obviously there's customers for such an item (like the orange Ram) but their site is littered with axes and bandannas. Obviously there's a disconnect and they're forced to pass the hat. And speaking of which, what happened to the $215k (or whatever was the final number)? |
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This thread is getting very close to being shut down.
Please, go ahead and discuss the topic, but refrain from personal jabs at each other. there is really no reason to go there. i find this to be a good topic, and interesting insight to the industry of 2019, so let's keep it civil. i have a few thoughts i will share in a bit, but for now, let's keep it to the topic, not poke each other. we're all [virtual] friends here.
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Then Grant needs to place larger orders for bikes or find a different supplier in Taiwan as others have done for a better margin... as far as BIKE parts, I assume many Riv frames are sold with all or most parts to build it (I had them build mine). So is the issue Grant is stocking a lot of stuff that folks just aren't wanting then?
Raygunner has a good point on the jersey... if folks are searching ebay and folks like him as asking, why is there no plans to stock one? I'm certain they could find a supplier... bottom line is I think buyers aren't finding value in Riv products like they once did... I agree with others that they may be a victim of their own previous ideas that took off and passed them buy...
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True
I think it's a good topic too. It's the story of many a bike shop, except this one is more public and has some interesting twists. I too wonder how it will play out going forward.
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That's my deepest and darkest secret
It's vegan and Himalayan...and I'll never sell it Quote:
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Ha!
They always horde the good stuff!
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[/QUOTE]It's not that they're not Surly. Far from it. They should be eating Surly's lunch. And owning a segment they've basically created with really kick-ass bikes and kick-ass accessories. What's there today by any external expression is not that.
If anything, what you construe as "they're not Surly" is some exasperation from those who recognize Grant and Riv's work for the visionary stuff it is, and that the guys who got it before anyone else now seem to be badly missing the plot for reasons that escape a lot of us, even with all this radical transparency.[/QUOTE] Sorry, but not comparing apples to apples, Surly is owned by behemoth QBP. Black Mountain comparisons run truer. |
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When this thread was started numerous Paceline members not only contributed but laid out some solid fundamentals to improve the business.
I can't recite all of them but they ranged from expensive Bay Area location, pairing back the frame offerings, number of employees, etc. I think everyone was pulling for them, as there's a ton of Riv fans here, myself included. After the Hail Mary, were there any changes to shore up the business? Maybe Joe knows as he seems to have a greater insight. It seems like they keep veering away from offering things that people wanted. They don't have a Saluki but now they have a Clem Smith. They revamped the Atlantis and it honestly lacks the style it one has (curved tubes, anyone?). And if Waterford got too expensive why not partner with another domestic framebuilder? Last edited by raygunner; 01-01-2019 at 08:05 PM. |
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Wait, it this a thread about Serotta?
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I'm a fan, and own a few of their earlier designs. Regarding their move overseas, could be that they are trying to maximize margins where they can. Folks will pay a premium for Rivendell, within reason. Building here in States would price them out of the market.
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Are they all built in Taiwan now? I've lost rack over the past 10 years.
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