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Old 03-02-2015, 08:11 AM
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Continuing and old OT thread

After years of lusting for a JSW, I found the deals on 2014s worthy of my interest. We brought home a white, JSW TDI. The dealer gave me everything I asked for in terms of price and accessories (which means I could have asked for more...)
There's lots of internet chatter about how to best break in the TDI engine. Did any of you follow the recommendations found on the TDI Club forum?

"First 1,000 miles
Keep rpms below 3,800. Avoid steady rpms. Frequent firm (75%) application of power is strongly recomended up to a maximum engine rpm of 3,800. Avoid the use of cruise control so that you naturally fluctuate the power with your foot.
DO NOT CHANGE THE ENGINE OIL UNTIL 10,000 MILES!

1,000-5,000 miles
Use the full 5,100 rpm power range. THIS DOES NOT MEAN DRIVE AROUND AT 5100 RPM! This DOES mean to find the rpm range where your cars best power resides. Most owners will find that the best engine operating range to be between 2000rpm and 4200 rpm for the purpose of acceleration. At all costs avoid using full throttle below 2000 rpm the ECU will attempt to prevent you from applying full power in this range, work with it and don't request it with your foot.
Continue to avoid steady rpms and avoid the use of cruise control. occasional application of full throttle (100%) is recomended to help seat the rings. City driving is ideal for breaking in a TDI due to frequent stops and acceleration. DO NOT CHANGE THE ENGINE OIL UNTIL 10,000 MILES!

5,000-10,000 miles
Use of the cruise control is ok at this point since most of the initial break in has occured. Continue to use occasional full throttle accelerations to continue to seat the rings. You will notice the engine become slightly louder during this phase due to less friction from the engine breaking in (normal for a diesel to become louder under lighter loads). If your going on a long drive and you are using the cruise, every so often step on the pedal to accelerate up about 20 mph then coast back down to your preset speed."

They seem awful restrictive, no cruise control for the first 5k miles?? I have road trips planned this summer and won't be close to having that many miles on the car.

-Steve, who will drive his new car to work today (leaving the bike at home) and its likely to rain
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Old 03-02-2015, 08:16 AM
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I would go with owners manual recommendation, and forget internet chatter. There is more to break in than engine.... trans, brake pads, bearings, etc....but 1000 miles of varying speeds gets most of that done.

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Old 03-02-2015, 08:21 AM
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I would go with owners manual recommendation, and forget internet chatter. There is more to break in than engine.... trans, brake pads, bearings, etc....but 1000 miles of varying speeds gets most of that done.
I agree. Since my 2013 is probably my last car, I wanted to do what the factory suggested. I just went over 30k, and have 5000 more miles of freebie service. My local VW wrench recommends a 5000 mile oil change interval, which is what I intend to do at 35,000 miles.

Just did 2 road trips recently, with some in town driving. About 44 MPG..coupled with lower fuel costs, very happy.
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Old 03-02-2015, 09:17 AM
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Be wary about what you read in the TDI forums, you'll drive yourself crazy.
Not sure about all that cruise control stuff

Second sticking to the recommended service plan, we're at about 15,000 miles and very pleased. DSG or the stick?
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Old 03-02-2015, 10:09 AM
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17k and change here on a 6MT/TDi...love the JSW.
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Old 03-02-2015, 11:05 AM
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10,000 miles before an oil change sounds like "let's get rid of some of it's lubricating properties so extra friction helps seat the rings". Of course the extra friction will cause extra wear in bearings, etc. so whatever benefit this provides (questionable in my opinion) early in an engine's life will likely have to be repaid later.
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Old 03-02-2015, 11:14 AM
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We were told to avoid cruise control for the first 1000 and oil change at 10k. Our 2010 has 80k on it with zero issues. Best car we've ever owned.
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Old 03-02-2015, 11:38 AM
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I think modern clean burning engines, with good oil filters, can go 10,000 miles between oil changes no problem. Short trip vehicles, change more often.

Many new vehicles tell you when to change the oil depending on use. We have two of those...A 2012 Ford Edge and 2012 Honda CRV. Oil change interval can be anywhere from roughly 3500 miles to 10,000 miles. Makes sense to me.

Most old mechanics aren't up on latest stuff, lastest oil engineering, even though they may be excellent wrenches. I see too many engines with 200,000 or more miles on them, that have only been serviced by owners manual recommendation to worry much about internet "wisdom".
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Old 03-02-2015, 12:09 PM
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I think modern clean burning engines, with good oil filters, can go 10,000 miles between oil changes no problem. Short trip vehicles, change more often.

Many new vehicles tell you when to change the oil depending on use. We have two of those...A 2012 Ford Edge and 2012 Honda CRV. Oil change interval can be anywhere from roughly 3500 miles to 10,000 miles. Makes sense to me.

Most old mechanics aren't up on latest stuff, latest oil engineering, even though they may be excellent wrenches. I see too many engines with 200,000 or more miles on them, that have only been serviced by owners manual recommendation to worry much about internet "wisdom".
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Old 03-09-2015, 06:04 PM
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2015 Sportwagen prices today

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...agen/24635243/
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Old 03-09-2015, 06:56 PM
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"The cheapest diesel version will go for $24,595, before shipping charges."

Still seems like a bargain IMO. Can't wait to see if they bring the R version to the states. That's the only way I'll even think of replacing our almost-paid-off 2010.
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Old 03-09-2015, 09:13 PM
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Manual, 1.8T, 36MPG, $21k. That is tempting.
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Old 03-09-2015, 09:29 PM
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1995, 5-spd manual, 30 MPG, 215k miles, $1k cash.

Oops, wrong car!
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:24 PM
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in my quest for my next car I came across the JSW, pretty sweet car BUT...

I just can't get over the Audi A3 wagon, it's so sweet! Might not be as much storage as the JSW, but I think a bike will fit fine and it's just so sexy!

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Old 03-16-2015, 04:53 PM
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Waiting for the holy grail combo that is, apparently, the 2015 Sportwagen: Diesel, Manual, AWD!
No AWD in 2015 for the Golf SportWagen, sorry you have been misinformed.
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